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  • Possible to microtune the solo trombones?

    Hello, I'm retuning Beethoven's Drei Equali for trombone quartet to a personal variant of just intonation (just finished tuning Andante) And I'm looking for the best trombone samples to render them. So far my search for the best trombone samples have led me to Vienna. I particulary like the sound of the tenor trombone (the bass trombone a little bit less listening to the demo, the contrabass ok again) It's not comletely clear to me yet how I can use the trombone samples. I'd buy the single downloadable instruments tenor trombone and contrabass trombone. As far as I can tell I can't use these samples in for instance Kontakt 2? There's a Vienna player included? As far as I could tell (also from another post about microtuning on this forum) the Vienna player does not support microtuning? I have several options to tune the trombones, all would work for me. I use the program Scala for outputting several microtonal format midi files or tuning files. Best option would be if the player supports MIDI Tuning Standard. This would be perfect and easyest way by far. Another option would be if the player can load Scala .scl tuning files, or has it's own interface for setting a microtonal scale (preferably any number of notes per octave, or even better with keyswitching for modulations/key changes/change of preset scale) Another option would be if each trombone can be set to monophonic, set to individual midi channels, and respond to pitch bends with a pitchbend range of +- 2 semitones. Scala can output a midi file with monophonic midi channels where the microtuning is done by pitch bends. I have some hope that this will indeed work for the Vienna trombones. Can anybody confirm this? Also let me use this post for a more general request aswell. Please implement MIDI Tuning Standard in all relevant software. The golden age of microtuning is comming I promice you :) Kind regards, Marcel de Velde

  • i use just intonation a lot and it works perfectly fine with VSL

    the player has the ability to pitchbend and you can adjust the range centwise up to 200 cents.

    the player does not load .scl-files and i really haven´t made up my mind about such tools, because for me they wouldn´t be of any use since i very often need to have the "c" for example tuned differently within a short period of time... my last piece for example had 52 different tones... so i don´t think a custom-tuning scale would be of help there for me... but it´s an interesting thought.

    and i agree: microtuning rules... to hell with the tempered scale!!!!


  • Thank you Aural! And yes agreed on the .scl not beeing very convenient. But sometimes it's the only way that'll work with certain software when they can't accept pitchbends on individual midi channels. MIDI Tuning Standard would be perfect though at the moment I only know of Timidity++ and Ivory pianos that support it.