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  • VE (Pro) live switching of matrices with program changes on midi channel 1

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    W

    I like to switch matrices with program changes (I play notes on a second keyboard and use a transformer in Logic). I works beautifully on all midi channels except channel 1. I see in the Vienna instrument that it receives the program change on channel 1, but no matrix switching happens. However, when I record the program changes, the matrices are switched correctly upon playback. As far as I can see in the midi monitor in Logic, the midi messages are identical between live playing and playback.

    Another detail: I simultaneously use Control Changes to switch patches in VI (again, the transformer in Logic converts a midi note to the controller). These work for playing live on channel 1.

    I can't figure out whether this is a Logic limitation ( I thought not, because the PrgmChs are being sent when playing live) or a flaw in my setup or a limitation in Vienna Ensemble . I am currently testing this with VE Pro. 

    Please let me know if you have any insights.
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    W

    okay, no replies... maybe it's an out there topic or the answer is too obvious. My current understanding is that Logic uses midi channel 1 program changes  on instrument channels internally and does not transmit them to the outside world. Please correct me if this is wrong. So I set up my VE Pro performances to start with channel 2 - lost a channel, but this totally works.

          So what's cool about my setup (well, I'm excited about it) is that I can switch sounds with a simple 2nd keyboard and hitting only one key. That gets translated into a program change (for matrix switching) and a controller (for switching patches within the matrices) - so no key switch notes in the score either. I set up VIs following Beat Kaufman's concept of general presets that are similar for all instruments. I'm having fun.

    I like talking to myself [8-|]

    or at least I pretend I do [:|]
  • C
    C

    Hi Woldsterik,

    Logic reserves ch1 to change it's own preset channel strips, therefore it doesn't pass through the information to the VI.  Unfortunately I don't believe there is a way to disable that 'feature'.

    Chris
  • W
    W

    Chris,

    thanks for confirming. I'll send a feature request to Apple.

    PS: I dig the tacks on your myspace site [Y]