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  • DietzD
    VSL Team
    DietzD

    Yes :-)

    Right now, MIR features just one output bus (with up to eight channels). When you need stems, you will have to solo the MIDI-tracks, sorry to say so - but we were already discussing the possibility to add solo and mute to the groupable aspects within MIR.

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • J
    J

    Dietz,

    thanks for staying on top of this thread (as you guys always do). I think the group solo possibility would be a respectable workaround. But, it sure would be great to be able to send tracks out of different stereo outs, like you suggest Vienna Pro (which I am very excited to get my hands on) will be able to do. Or, is there some way that vienna Pro would insert inside of MIR?

    BTW, not being a programmer, I have no idea if what I am asking for is ridiculous or not.

    Jay
  • D
    D

    There are a lot of things that people working on music, other than purely orchestral, need. Stems is one of them.

    Another is the ability to send dry signal out to hardware reverb. I hope that with the future development of MIR, these sort of things become possible, because until there is the flexibility of what we already have, it can't be considered a final mixing solution.

    I think that it would be a good idea to have an area where we can post feature requests for all VSL software products, as then we can, at least, feel we have some input.

    DG
  • O
    O

    Thanks for the quick and very clear response Dietz!  Mir seems to be such a lofty project and concept that it has not yet reached the stage of seemlessly integrating with existing setups/workflow/etc.  However, this is obviously just the first public version, so I imagine it will only grow and get refined from here, especially as sheer computing power becomes less and less of an issue.  The focus could then swing more in the direction of integration rather than how-can-we-get-this-to-run-on-a-non-Cray-machine.
  • S
    S

     I perfectly understand the needs for stems but I continue to not understand the sense of splitting a MIR output
  • D
    D
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    @Sergino Futurino said:

     I perfectly understand the needs for stems but I continue to not understand the sense of splitting a MIR output

     

    If you don't, you would need to do at least 4 passes. Waste of time.

    DG
  • DietzD
    VSL Team
    DietzD
    Thanks to all for the interesting discussion. Like I said before, we have many ideas and concepts up our sleeves. Some of them will find their way into Vienna MIR, most of them will obviously be part of MIR Pro.

    It's funny ... imagine you just built the first space ship, but before anybody has seen Earth from the orbit you get ask for comfy chairs, air condition and cold drinks ... 8-)
    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • O
    O

    I know, we truly are a demanding bunch, eh? [;)]

    Or as they say in Wien: A Wohnsinn d' Laite (trying to spell out the Wienerisch Dialekt with my very limited Californian perspective...it's been a while since I lived there!)
  • DietzD
    VSL Team
    DietzD
    LOL ... perfect! Although due to your Californian influences, you have adopted that certain Styrian Schwarzenegger-idiom. In Vienna, it would be "A Waunsinn de Leit!" ;-D
    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • O
    O

    Right you are Dietz!  And, no one pronounces it quite like the Kronen Zeitung Verkaufer in the U4 Stadtsoper Station.  This guy in particular, I swear I wanted to follow him around with manuscript paper and pencil like Bartok doing musicology in the countryside taking dictation of his speach.  The musicality of this guy's dialect was incredibly fascinating.  One day I'll make a sample library of Austrian dialects! ; ) Very cool indeed.  Here, we are stuck with The Guvornator. ; )
  • H
    H

    I need to ask something regarding instrument width in MIR pls. The width of a VI in MIR, should be treated depending on a real ensemble space(area) consumption on a real stage? Or as per instrument directivity and perception?(like what we do with panners).
  • DietzD
    VSL Team
    DietzD

    Err ... I'm not sure if I really understand the question, but I'll try to answer it anyway. :-)

    With "ordinary" panning, you are more or less restriced to "left/right" and "more reverb/less reverb". As MIR offers individual impulse reponses for almost every spot on a stage, we are able to think in much more meaningful terms of "nice position for violins", "nice position for a flute". So if this is what you are asking for, then the answer is: Yes the width of an VI should be treated like on a real stage - as long as you think it sounds nice, of course, because nothing hinders you from doing it in a way that nobody dared to try on the actual stage.

    HTH,

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • H
    H

    hmm. I guess, not really sure what you mean by the "nice position" term though. But I think I got the point.[8-)]
  • DietzD
    VSL Team
    DietzD
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    @hose said:

    hmm. I guess, not really sure what you mean by the "nice position" term though.
    "The instrument sounds good when it plays here, fits to the other instruments and fills its part within the arrangement." :-)
    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • H
    H

    ok ic, great! Dietz, and MIR users I need to you ask you something, and I would like you to be frank with me. Basically, my new workstation for MIR should arrive by next week. As a general rule I don't change my work flow in a middle of project, and right now I have 7 more episodes left to finish scoring this project. Anyway, long story short, since this is the first official release of MIR, I would like to know if it is stable, and reliable enough to work with. BTW, for now I intend to run it on Vista. Thanks
  • S
    S

     I was a beta tester and I don't remember a single freeze with vista 64.

    According to the first Murphy's Law: "If something can go wrong, it will." 

    So go with MIR and Windows 7 and you will save a lot of time!

    (I still use Vista because I am so lazy....)
  • H
    H

    Thanks Sergino, I will consider the possibility of using Windows 7 then. Do you know how the processor scheduling should be set in the OS? I am having a MIR exclusive workstation, therefore my DAW and all other non VSL plugins, will be hosted on other dedicated workstations.