Well base on what I've heard so far I think I'll skip this upgrade. Logic 9 doesn't do anything that Logic 8 doesn't already for me .. and it contains no new, or interesting features that I'd use.

I suppose Logic X (as I imagine they'll call it :P), will be the next port of call for me.

Well one thing you can be certain will happen, is that once Snow Leopard comes out you can expect some type of change over to 64-bit which might change your mind lol.  As they may not do one for 8.

Maestro2be

Oh I've no doubt about that .. any 64 bit functionality will no doubt be aimed at logic 9.1 .. and I say 9.1 cos I'm also use we can expect to pay an extra $20 for a minor upgrade to activate the 64 bit layer of Logic within OS 10.6

In anycase I've actually been fairly happy with my virtual orchestra with the limitations that I have. Of course I'm looking forward to the 64 bit lift just so that one can use more RAM .. which is really all I need. But I can manage in the meantime if I have to.

It does annoy me though that Windows is proving to be more effective for musicians seeing as how MIR cannot work for OS.X .. and that we can only run so much RAM in Logic .. and apple have been bragging about being 64 bit since 2004 (Or since the G5 came out anyways). I guess I just like the Mac platform and I'm disappointed to see it out performed by Windows.

: sigh : .. what can one do eh!

Yup.  And now with Windows 7 coming out it's just another kick in the face because that OS is just amazing.  XP was the best they ever wrote in my opinion.  7 will be the death of XP.  It will also be the OS that will restore faith in MS's OS's and bring some people back to the platform.  Hell think about it.  You can build a machine with Windows 7 that can smoke a MacPro for 1/3 of the cost.  Run MIR on it and every other sequencer minus Logic.

That's a blessing for Cubase users, and a thorn in my side (being Logic).  If I wasn't so attached to Logic I would abandon MAC at this point.  I just don't feel like starting all over again with other sequencers etc.  And honestly as you've been saying.  Logic 8 still has 99% of everything most anyone needs.  9 has some updates and new things but for us midi people it's not a big update.  I won't lie, so far I haven't really used many of the new options from 9 other then bounce in place.  Other then that I realized I could do all the other things in 8, just had to do them differently or a few additional steps.  Same results though.

I use mine with VE3 anyway so my MacBook Pro is still plenty for me.  All my horsepower requirements are done by my Windows machine so thankfully I won't need a Mac Pro until my laptop dies completely.

Maestro2be

> You can build a machine with Windows 7 that can smoke a MacPro for 1/3 of the cost

You are going to cry, when you see the CPU cost of Window 7, just sitting there doing nothing !

I hope that M.S. has improve that, that it is not like VISTA (1/3 of the CPU of the 2 proc of a 2 Ghz computer)

A few month ago I saw a video of Windows 7 on Youtube it was not promising, but it was a beta !

Best

Cyril

 P.S. If you want to get a good price on a Macpro you watch the "refurb" at Apple store just before a new model comes out, I bought my 8 core 3 ghz MACPRO at 2 K€ instead of 3 k€

Indeed, it seems the Apple are gonna have to get the lead out if they're going to survive. Mind you .. this is apple we're talking about. And if there's one thing they do well, it's doing their typical .. 'as soon as everyone else looks better', they put out some amazing new piece of hardware or software.

I love the Mac platform .. the computer itself is better than any PC hardware I've ever seen. The OS is very friendly and reliable. Whereas I can always count on Windows to throw up some ridiculous error message (Okay I'm talking about XP at the moment.). On the other hand one can have the best of both worlds. One could install the new windows on a MacPro .. or Macbook Pro and take the full advantage of the hardware. So that at least is something.

But I'm seriously thinking of getting either the new pro-tools (With it's score edit, and midi edit stuff that looks good), or working from Finale .. assuming I can find the info I need on that. If finale really is the 'hot' sh*t they say it is then I may use this for my writing in the future. It's funny but years of working with VI and logic has actually taught me what I need to actually write score properly. IT's like learning how to write .. but the wrong way round :P

I have cubase 4 but frankly don't want to upgrade that unless version 5 has something better to it. I still find cubase a pain in the arse to work with cos you have to learn all of their symbology.

Bah! ... that's all you can say about tech these days. Bah!

I see what you're saying friend, but i would be very cautious about MS, 

well, I have been using Windows 7 release candidate for a while now, and you are right about one thing, it is as stable as XP was.  wanna know why?  because it is Windows XP with a new skin, it sure kicks Vista's $%^^, but it is basically XP.  same functionality, same need for drivers, same strange disappearing of hard drive space over time and same slowing down in operation over time.  All of these issues were strange in every windows release and they continue to be so...

you can download it free and try it for yourself !

Apple are no saints either, and sure there Logic release isn't exactly anything to write home about, and they know it to cause they haven't been pushing it marketing wise as they have done in the past, but one thing I know that is good enough for me.  Every time I turn on my mac it behaves exactly as I left last time, if there were bugs they are there and I can usually figure them out and avoid their causes.  In short, the system is far more predictable than windows, and a predictable system the most important thing for me as a composer.

good luck to you

David

David! 

Hey, it's James Maxwell, here. So funny to see your name pop up on this forum - I'm an old timer around here (though I haven't posted much recently). Have you got into VSL stuff lately? I'm assuming so. It's pretty amazing, as I'm sure you've noticed. This forum can get totally addictive, too, so you better watch out! ;-)

We should get together for a beer, and maybe talk about some RC... and VSL too!

cheers,

J.

@davidmesiha said:

you can download it free and try it for yourself !