Will do Rob. Really dreading trying to figure out a new software as daunting as Bidule! Hopefully we'll get an answer soon before I have to "pull this trigger."
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Thanks Rob - same here. It is not the cost but the 'learning curve' set up. Like to be able to do only one. :)
Thanks Paul and good luck ironing out the last bugs.
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With all due respect guys, I wouldn't risk using the first release of VE Pro on a big gig, unless there was no tight deadline. We all know that the Vienna stuff should be OK, but all it takes is one dodgy VSTi like PLAY, and the whole thing could come crashing down. Personally, I wouldn't risk it for the whole shebang until I'd read on the forum (for at least a month) that nobody was having problems.
Then again,. I don't usually take risks with software. That's why my system has never let me down. Yet.................! [:P]
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I didn't swith to DP 6 until after a year after it was released. I suspect we're all seasoned enough to know that using a new software on a tight deadline is never a good idea, but basing this on a July release that would've given plenty of time to work out the bugs, the scenario has changed a bit. In my case, I really don't have an option as I have to run these VSTs (they're fortunately not PLAY but KONTAKT) on my farms. Sometimes circumstances don't leave many options...unless Bidule is the only option out there.
DG, if you have any suggestions, I think we'd all love to hear them!
Thanks!
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DG - I have had this fact NAGGING at me since the annoucement of delay (if VSl is running down these bugs - EVEN VSL may not catch all the little critters.) Seriously VSL is the BEST sample/software company out there on this sort of beta testing thing BUT they/we are all human. I am now giving some serious consideration to something like Bidule. Get VE PRO for the next project later in the year.
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Personally, I would do it sooner than later - if I could get some published specs to help me with the purchase of a new, dedicated slave machine before the new software ships.
I want to do a Mac Pro for VE Pro. I have a Mac Pro for VE3 but am running it in Boot Camp/Vista 64. It would be nice to know how much RAM I could access if I chose to go for the Mac OS. I'm trying to avoid using a Windows OS for Play.
Currently Kontakt is covered adequately entirely within my main Mac Pro DAW by using some within Logic and one rather large library in Plogue Bidule.
I do expect VSL to do a pretty good job on the first iteration. Perfect? That will be difficult because the audience they're playing to is large and diversified.
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@rpmusic said:
Hey Jack,
Concerning Bidule: I may be missing something in the online info but do you know of any "instructionals" that would show how to set up a multiple computer scenario (Mac)?
Any info would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
I use bidule in 4 machines, both mac and pc. It's pretty straight forward. How did you want to set it up, in your DAW or on a slave?
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DG - I have had this fact NAGGING at me since the annoucement of delay (if VSl is running down these bugs - EVEN VSL may not catch all the little critters.) Seriously VSL is the BEST sample/software company out there on this sort of beta testing thing BUT they/we are all human. I am now giving some serious consideration to something like Bidule. Get VE PRO for the next project later in the year.
Rob, unless you absolutely have to change your system now, I would say just carry on as you are. Check out VE Pro when it is released. If it seems to like hosting your other sample players, then give it a good thrashing during a down week (if you have such a thing), and then assuming all is OK, use it on the next gig that comes up.
Regarding Bidule, the only advantage that I can see over any other VSTi host is that if you run it on your sequencer machine, you can run in Rewire. This means that you don't have to re-load every time you change project. However, if you are currently using the networking capabilities of VE3, Bidule does nothing for you. Nada.
DG
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@Tripit said:
I can't imagine any professional making a living with this stuff just charging in without any safety net.
You'd be surprised. The amount of people who can't wait to "update" their systems to the latest OS, or version of software always makes me cringe. If it so desperate that they update at once, then something is seriously wrong with their system in the first place. I sometimes wonder whether or not they would be better off using different software or even OS platform.
Like Rob, I'm convinced that there will be very few problems with VE Pro for VSL users, but having used some other sample players, I'm not sure that any VSTi host could cope adequately. I'll certainly be introducing VE Pro very slowly into my setup.
DG
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I guess there are always a few knuckleheads in the crowd. But all the pro guys I know are hyper careful with their rigs - you have to be when you use it day in to make a living - and you are the one that has to fix and troubleshoot it at 11pm on the night before a last minute cue is due first thing in the morning. Can't afford down time. I'm still on tiger and DP5.13 daily - although having Leopard, PT8 and Dp6 on another boot, which I still deem not ready for prime time yet.
I think VE pro will probably work well. And when it's released, I'll take it one plug at a time and see how it does. But just the ability to get even one 3rd party player functioning on one machine via VE pro will be really good for my particularly unusal setup. And this has to do with RTAS routing more than anything else.
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Hey Rob Portman,
I haven't used Bidule in a multi-machine setup. I might refer you back to Tripit since he's done this.
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