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  • Hi Shakuman,

    Thanks for your kind words.

    I am afraid the microtuning is a tedious job for the VSL team to implement this issue in its software, so I remain curious to know if this will be possible anyway.

    All info about the Authentic Guitar is on the site. I feel that it is certainly for me not the place to mention anything about this product here on this VSL forum. I am happy with your compliments though!

    Erik


  • well.

    First, microtuning is already implemented via scripting in many kontakt instruments, and scripts are something you can add to any instrument.

    Beyond this, to say that "Most sequencers or hosts like Vienna Ensemble (PRO) can't do this, because there isn't any possibility to manipulate the MIDI signal before it gets into an instrument like Vienna (or whatever synth you like): there is ususally only a routing  involved between the MIDI instrument and the audio output" isn't correct.

    if this were true I don't think an instrument in these cases (which are not demonstrable) would even respond to pitch bend values from the key editor lanes in a sequencer. It's a fact that VI, inside VEP, does just fine here.

    Then, there is logical editor (aka transform) in Cubase, where a given pitch value can be substituted for another. This basically does what a script does in a kontakt instrument. EG: Guzheng by Sonic Couture. Pitch bends are limited to 'in key', or can be handled other ways. You can, from MIDI information from your keyboard *= 'black key' pentatonic configuration*, keep the authentic intonation, which is "D major pentatonic". IE., a transform function. So, what you've said is only done in an instrument has an analogy in at least one, and probably all major sequencers.

    An instrument responds to what the sequencer - or controller - gives it in terms of MIDI pitch information *usually*. I don't know of anything which would fail to do this, in fact.

    I have no idea about what problems of 'non-12 ET' implementation per se there would be with VI, it isn't my field. But this above information isn't really good information.


  • Hi Civilization 3,

    I just tried to explain, that many sequencers don't allow scripting between the midi signal and the receiving synth/instrument. Of course pitch manipulating is possible, just like CC and note input, but except for Kontakt itself, I can't figure out how to chain a specific microtuned scale to a Vienna instrument otherwise than mentioned in my post hereabove. I guess it is not possible to use Kontakt as effect for a VI, isn't it?

    Please let me know if I am wrong!

    Erik


  • I think you're not wrong there.

    If I felt I had to have say a maqam-specific intonation I'd do it in the sequencer. What kontakt does, I tried to point out, seems analogous to what, for instance Cubase transform window aka logical editor seems like would do. Which I would think is giving alternate pitch information just like a pitch wheel or pitch bend lane in the key editor does.