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  •  Hi DG.

                I am using Cubase SX3 it has a microtuning plugin but unfortunetly it dosn't support VI even Cubase 4!

    Shakuman.


  • Hi shakuman

    Yes you are correct. Even if the pitch wheel works - the micro tuner isn't able to do the same job with the VI.

    Perhaps there are free ware midi plugIns which can do it or somebody of VSL can give us the final trick.

    Beat


    - Tips & Tricks while using Samples of VSL.. see at: https://www.beat-kaufmann.com/vitutorials/ - Tutorial "Mixing an Orchestra": https://www.beat-kaufmann.com/mixing-an-orchestra/
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    @shakuman said:

     Hi DG.

                I am using Cubase SX3 it has a microtuning plugin but unfortunetly it dosn't support VI even Cubase 4!

    Shakuman.

     

    Not even using the Logical Editor? Hmm. I need to think about this a bit more.

    DG


  •             Believe me DG I am a composer and I know what is required there most of turkish and middle east musician waiting for this moment when VSL support microtuning it will be a huge bomb! even for vsl sales[;)] I hope Herb respond to us.

    Shakuman.


  • Shakuman.


  • Hello Shakuman,

    of course we don´t ignore it. Microtuning is on our to-do-list, but it´s not priority #1 at the moment.

    Thanks for your patience,

    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
  • Hi.

        Just a reminder please don't ignore the issue[:)]

    Kind regards.

       


  • Hello Shakuman,

    again: of course we don´t ignore it. Microtuning is on our to-do-list, but it´s not priority #1 at the moment.

    Thanks for your patience,

    Paul


    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
  •  Hi.

         Just a reminder..Still I can't use VI with eastern music (turkish and arabic) ! really it is my hope to see the microtuner in VI..

    Shakuman.


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    @shakuman said:

    really it is my hope to see the microtuner in VI..

    I'd greatly appreciate microtuning, too

    Pitt


  • Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe one way to achieve an effective result would be to open an identical 2nd  instance of the instrument you are using. Detune it by a quarter tone. You should then be able to, albeit with a fair bit of editing, achieve a melodic line with quarter tones.

    Colin


  • If you are going to do that, then it's better to just define the pitch bend amount that allows for the correct interval when the pitch bend controller is at full tilt, and adjust each note with pitch bend CC data in the DAW after the fact.  However, the ideas is to be able to actaully play and hear the correct intervals in real time.  This is EXTREMELY easy to accomplish with any library that uses Kontakt.  Play from EWQL also has some microtuning scripts.  VSL has not implemented this yet, but as can be read earlier in this thread, it is on the agenda.  Hopefully soon.  I find the workarounds precise and usable, but extremely inefficient.

    O


  • Well, two instances detuned by a quarter tone are not a good solution: (1) it is not playable, and (2) most alternative tuning systems -- non-European tuning systems as well as historical temperaments, which I'm interested in -- are utterly different from 24-tone equal temperament. The deviations from 12-tone equal temperament are much more subtle than a quarter-tone.

    The majority of the virtual instruments I use (Kontakt, Pianoteq, PLAY) *do* provide alternative tunings..., so, dear VSL team, please consider rising the priority of implementing it!

    Cheers, Pitt


  • I would also like to chime in about a preference for other ways to intone. At this point I'm only familiar with what I have by VSL, which is some percussion and the overdrive e guitar. I'm surprised other intonations aren't implemented at all. An Arabic tuning has little or nothing to do with equal intervals, just by way of general information. It's based on a just intonation sort of thing, generally integer ratios. 'Quarter tone' is often spoken of, but it's a misnomer at least to a western musician. There are '24 tone' systems in place, but one derives usually not more than a seven note row from, just there is more than one row to be got.


  • It sounds like everyone, including VSL, agrees that this is a needed feature.  The only question that remains is: Just how high up the list of priorities are the intonation features for VSL.

    Obviously, some of us (me included) would love to have this feature yesterday.

    Eagerly waiting,

    O


  • Hi,

    I have no clue, but Cubase 5 has a midi-plugin called "Micro Tuner".

    Maybe worth to look into.

    BR,

    Magnus


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    @Magnus Thysk said:

    Hi,

    I have no clue, but Cubase 5 has a midi-plugin called "Micro Tuner".

    Maybe worth to look into.

    BR,

    Magnus

     

    Cubase has had this plug for many versions, but unfortunately it doesn't work with VI.

    DG


  •  Hi.

         My dream to see microtuner in VI,I hope this will happene soon.

    Shakuman.


  • To tell truth, this is keeping me from investing in a string library here. I would just use something in Kontakt and tweak the microtuning in the instrument via a script, or use that cubase plug in.

    Also, what about long glissandi in the strings, there is a whole thing (let's just say in a film composer's bag of tricks) derived from penderecki's thing, which seem awfully tough to do here.

    That's a feature request. I have no idea how you'd implement or how impossible or what, but that gets me into the string libraries, that and having some stock Arabic or what-have-you intervals and not having to base on 12T et.