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  • cmC
    VSL Team
    cmC

    just a thought (in the past i had a similar problem with cubase / premiere and VST) - isn't there an option in final cut to de-activate certain plugins?

    if not: try to move the files to a place final cut does not read by default and make logic familiar with this location manually.

    hth, christian

    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • S
    S
    ... might want to try AudioUnit Manager-application - it is not perfect but you can switch between sets of plugins more easily. (e.g. a set for Logic and one for FC. I do not think there is a way to point any of the traditional AU hosts to a custom plugin directory - there are the two defined locations - that's it .... hope that helps. best
  • JBacalJ
    JBacalJ

    I am getting glitched filter graphs when I open certain equilizer presets.   (They look like a seismograph during a huge earthquake!) Closing and reopening the instance does not clear up the glitchy graphs.   However, when I make a copy of the equilizer instance the copy displays the graphs correctly.

    This is happening in Sonar 8, Vista 64, 16 GB ram.

    Thanks,

    Jay
  • D
    D

    Hello

    I have found another problem with Vienna Suite,

    Under KORE2, open Vienna Suite will crash the KORE2 (So is the host if using Kore2 as plug-in)

    Problem happened with both VST and Audio Unit.

    Please fix it as well.

    Regards

    Sonny
  • D
    D
    I have installed newest version (Somehow not public in user area yet - ViennaSuite-OSX-1.0-r1035) I confirm it fixed for 1- Bias Peak 2- Kore2 But I found yet another possible bug, not sure if Vienna Suite team will consider it's a bug... Vienna Suite does not work well with Automap universal 2.1 ------------------------------- I just bought Novation nocturn, it work with all other AU plug-ins, but not VS - Vienna Suite again not show factory presets!!!. ------------------------------- Novation Nocturn is a great idea controller for Vienna Suite,so please consider fix it! thank you! Sonny
  • D
    D
    Dec 16, 2008 --------- Installed version r1039, Problem with Novation Automap (Nocturn Controller) is still there so please fix it! I am so glad that my bug report with Bias Peak is solved! The developer is listening so please report bugs if you discover any more :) --------- In case you don't know what NOCTURN is, it's a controller, instead of mousing with FX settings, We can now use a real knobs and it really work! Try it. It's cheap too, around US $150 - It work with all other AU unit except Vienna Suite :( Sonny
  • M
    M
    Just to clear things up for readers of this thread, the Nocturn works fine for automating or controlling parameters, but it can not load the Vienna Suite presets. The Vienna Suite presets are created in an internal format, so they will not show up as your standard "AU Factory presets".
  • D
    D

     Hi Martin,

    I beg you to fix the Vienna Suite to fully support RTAS platform.

    Using VS with Icon D-Command, The VS will not show up in dedicate EQ or Compressor knobs.

    However, It appear to WORK with Custom fader plug-ins Mode BUT:

    - Once I touch the fader or knobs on the Icon, the value of the feature will begin from LOWEST POINT (Support to be continue from current position), for example

    If I want to use GAIN for Lowband EQ, as soon as I touch the fader or Knob on Icon, the value rapidly go down to the lowest number,

    This is un-usable, If I found a frequency I want to tweak, by touching it, the frequency reset to 0Hz or something so I have to dial again to find the frequency I want again... and so on with Q or Gain, Input/Output etc...

    None other Plug-ins behave like that in Protools/Icon.

    Protools and Icon is a Major Professional tool, please support it and make it usable.

    Vienna Suite is a great tool, I really love ! that's why I want to beg you to fix it (I normally don't do that)

    Also, If I load aVS  plug-in in the master fader, loading preset or hit bypass while the song playing sometime cause a very loud pop, loud enough to damage a speakers, really...

    Best regards

    Sonny
  • D
    D

     Hello Again,

    I am so sad to report a new discover,

    Vienna Suite doesn't work with Protools 8. Lots of parameter doesn't work at all even using mouse or controller.

    And with All the plug-ins

    I had a high hope on VS but begining to fade now, it's so sad that I am the one who found so many problem with VS,

    1st, was Bias Peak and Kore2 (Solved) then with RTAS, Icon, Nocturn, and now Protools 8

    You should hire me for Beta tester...

    Sonny
  • cmC
    VSL Team
    cmC

     details, details, details .... exact  OS version, PT version, drivers versions, ect ...

    many team members from VSL are at the NAMM show currently, so it might take a while until dvelopers hava a chance to look into it ...

    christian

    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • M
    M
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    @dsstudio said:

    Vienna Suite doesn't work with Protools 8. Lots of parameter doesn't work at all even using mouse or controller.

    We have previously verified correct operation in PT8. I just did it once again, and can not confirm your report. Everything works fine.

    Regarding Icon/D-Command support - unfortunately I cannot test this myself, since I don't have access to such a device. I will meet up with Digidesign developers today and discuss the matter.
  • D
    D

     Hi

    I am using Protools 8, OSX 10.5.5

    I don't know why VS don't work on my system (but work OK on my old 7.4)

    I can't make any adjustment on most of parameter in all plug-in, use mouse drag, the GUI look like it's freeze.

    Yes, please discuss the problem with Digidesign, I have met 2 Martin today at NAMM, 1 young Martin and 1 older, which one is you?

    Either is cool :)

    Christian, I want to meet you at NAMM but too bad, you stay home huh :)

    Martin, If you want me to do further test on Icon, I will, just let me know... My place is 10 Min to NAMM, you can stop by and check it out after hour if you want, I'll be honor to have you at my place.

    Sonny
  • G
    G
    Using the Vienna Suite Mastering EQ, I'm getting a few pops and clicks in an audio track in Logic 8.02, and they are happening during the first few seconds BEFORE the audio plays back (and no other tracks have audio or MIDI content, so in other words, everything is silent). Only remedy is to get rid of the Vienna Suite Mastering EQ plug-in in that track and substitute the Sonnox EQ.
  • M
    M

    This issue is due to a bug in Logic's delay compensation - and happens in all plugins that need latency compensation. This issue also affects the ability of Logic to correctly bounce offline.

    Apple are aware of this issue and we hope are able to have this fixed in the next release of their software.

    Logic 8 improved upon this situation, but it still remains. I will see if I can find a workaround for this.
  • G
    G
    Thanks Martin, for explaining that. Good to know it's not the Vienna Suite causing the problem.
  • P
    P

    the "loud pop" issue happens to me too.... unfortunally... but that seems to be related to vienna ensemble? (setup: mac intel latest version of logic and OS 10.5). The problem of these sound explosions seems to occur when the VI switches between samples (eg. when changing dynamics). Is there any way to solve this problem  (changes in buffer size, etc)?
  • D
    D

     Hi Martin,

    I am beginning to lose patience... The loud pop happen in Protools too, not just Logic...

    Just like EXS24 performance tools case, VSL beginning to blame Apple for the bugs... I don't know about computer programming but I just know that Vienna Suite is the only plug-ins that cause loud pop in my system (Both Logic and Protools) - 3rd party support to adapt to the host - not vice versa... not to mention, Logic 8.02 was release way ahead of Vienna Suite.

    1 More thing, it run ok with no problem in YOUR machine does not mean it don't have bugs.

    Sorry Guys, I was a guy who open this thread and report many other problems... (I am glad that you fix ptoblem with Bias peak)

    but so far, lately I don't get the answer I deserved, my time is limited but I still participate here with a goal to help... Make VS to be a better product...

    I guess I will shut up now...

    Sonny
  • M
    M

    Hi,

    Sorry for not replying sooner. I have been on holiday since NAMM and have tried my best to stay away from computers.

    I have just created a workaround for the "pop" issue you mention, which will be released with the next VS update. I also fixed your issues regarding automation and usage with Icon / D-Command.
  • D
    D

     Thanks Martin, Can't wait for the update.

    More presets if possible!

    Regards

    Sonny
  • D
    D

    Hi, Hate to post here (old topic) but I think we don't want another "bug report topic" after 1.1 has been released.

    1/ Under Protools / Icon (D-Control and D-Command): VS still not automatically load into dedicate EQ and Dynamic Knob

    2/ Under Protools, Some Plug-ins (Power Pan for example) If I want to use mouse to adjust, I have to point somewhere around (not exactly the point) - ie, If I want to move point R, I will have to point the mouse about 1 cm or so to the right - This is very annoying bug and it's there since the 1st version of VS.

    This behavior also happen under Logic/Novation Automap V3 (for Nocturn Controller)... but this time, instead of 1cm on the right, it's 1cm below it.

    So, again, Digidesign Icons and Novation Nocturn are MAJOR controller, they will make VS look good so Please consider fixing it ASAP!

    And also, 1 more request for PPC support for VS Reverb.

    Thanks

    Sonny