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  • C
    C
    Jan 17, 2008, 12:29 AM last edited Oct 15, 2023, 5:14 PM
    Jan 17, 2008, 12:29 AM last edited Oct 15, 2023, 5:14 PM

    @Nick K-B said:

    For that extra sense of realism, a full set of sneezes, coughs, splutters, watch bleeps, whispers and wrapper rustlings would be really cool - then you might try and pass off recordings as live! 

    Yes, add some booing to that and it would really evoke a live performance of one of my compositions.
  • G
    G
    Jan 17, 2008, 7:32 PM
    Jan 17, 2008, 7:32 PM
    I don't know if this has been mentioned, this thread id getting too long to read it all, but I'd like to have solo con sordino violin, sometimes it's nice to be able to use that expressive vibrato doubling the ensemble con sordino. I think this thread should of been called "herb's shopping list" I noticed nobody made mention of bagpipes! Where are the bagpipe lovers?
  • B
    B
    Jan 17, 2008, 9:38 PM last edited Jan 19, 2024, 11:40 AM
    Jan 17, 2008, 9:38 PM last edited Jan 19, 2024, 11:40 AM

    @Guy said:

    ...Where are the bagpipe lovers?
     

    Here is one [:$]

    Beat 

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  • D
    D
    Jan 17, 2008, 10:42 PM
    Jan 17, 2008, 10:42 PM
    100% agreement on the desk sampling of violins, full articulations for Appassionata vlns and Bagpipes! (no kidding on bagpipes - one of the great instruments in the universe - I'm Irish and any Scottsman will tell you we invented them.)
  • M
    M
    Jan 17, 2008, 11:34 PM
    Jan 17, 2008, 11:34 PM
    • Washboard
    • Jug
    • Jew's Harp

     in fact, anything instrument the Darlings played on "The Andy Griffith Show"

    And throw in a Kazoo for good measure.

    Also, those party favor "Blowout" things:

    Imagine the glorius sound of a Sforzandissimo Con Sordino Blowout Party Favor (in E flat)

    Ahhhh. ..  
  • C
    C
    Jan 18, 2008, 1:19 PM
    Jan 18, 2008, 1:19 PM

    More than anything I would like 2-3 extra layers for the Legato: pp, mf and fff. But in general more dynamic layers would be great.

    As DG said more punctuated and fast staccatos for winds.. I know there are some in the Repetitions BUT you have the same problem as above - too few layers. fff layers I often find I miss.

    Ethnic Instruments surely - and I would love a bagpipe ;)

    And a second Violin would also be lovely.

  • R
    R
    Jan 18, 2008, 6:59 PM
    Jan 18, 2008, 6:59 PM

    One more vote for more vel layer - especially on the strings.   With velxfading and some controller (pedal, breath, ESP[:)], etc.   this would really help us 'express more..) 

    Of course always open to a patch that is 'instant killer theme'.   I'd pay big bucks for that one.[Y]

    Rob 
  • F
    F
    Jan 19, 2008, 7:12 PM last edited Oct 15, 2023, 5:15 PM
    Jan 19, 2008, 7:12 PM last edited Oct 15, 2023, 5:15 PM

    @Guy said:

    but I'd like to have solo con sordino violin, sometimes it's nice to be able to use that expressive vibrato doubling the ensemble con sordino.

    Thats it!!!

    I desperatly wait for that since years!!

    [quote=Alex]2. A full collection of

    I second that. Thats a field VSL really might excel and inspire the users.

  • J
    J
    Jan 19, 2008, 8:16 PM
    Jan 19, 2008, 8:16 PM
    oooh, I hope VSL is listening! Lots of requests for contemporary/extended techniques... Nice!

    I'd also like the con sord violin solo. Rihm opens his Jagden Und Formen with a fairly aggressive violin duet, played con sord, and it has the most unusual effect. We're accustomed to muted strings being rather subdued, but this aggressive writing for muted solo strings works really well - a strange masking of the colour which is hard to place, on first listening. Cool. Of course, we have to keep in mind that sampling something as general as con sord requires sampling _all_ of the various articulations again, with the mute on... Loads of work...

    On the other hand, sampling of certain extended techniques would just be a matter of covering the various dynamic levels - not a huge job at all!
    So come on guys, let's see it as a downloadable product. It's a perfect opportunity for downloadable "add-ons" to some of the major libraries. Since they may not be _huge_ sellers, this would save some cost on packaging and distribution...

    J.
  • M
    M
    Jan 20, 2008, 12:33 PM
    Jan 20, 2008, 12:33 PM
    The articulations I am most interested in are as follows: 1. Con sordino solo and chamber strings. 2. More dynamic layers for legatos, sustains and dynamics. 3. 2 French Horns in unison. 4. Clarinet in A. 5. 2nd Bassoon. 6 Trumpet in Bb. 7. 2nd solo violin, viola and cello. 8 2 Violins, Violas, and 2 cellos in unison. Regards Mirabile
  • P
    P
    Jan 20, 2008, 11:03 PM
    Jan 20, 2008, 11:03 PM

    Hmm... the 2 French Horns in unison is an interesting comment! I'm with you here... now with 2nd Bassoon, A-Clarinet and Bb-Trumpet that makes the list quite long and hard to set in proper order ;) Therefore I'll adjust my suggestion to this, taking the others into account:

    1. Choir

    2. MIR impulses

    3. Single desk Violins (2 in unison)

    4. 2nd Solo Violin (with different timbre)

    5. 2 French Horns (in unison, also with different mutes perhaps) 

    6. Single desk Violas and Celli (2 in unison)

    7. More legato layers 

    8. 2nd Bassoon 

    9. Clarinet in A 

    10. Con sordino Solo and Chamber Strings and also where missing in the above

    11. Epic Trumpets

    12. Bb Trumpet 

    13. 4 French Horns (in unison)

    14. 2nd Solo Viola and Cello

    Wow, that's quite a list already! I guess the order has to be changed slightly so that this will hopefully not end up in a shopping nightmare ;)

    All the best,
    PolarBear
  • M
    M
    Jan 22, 2008, 9:34 AM
    Jan 22, 2008, 9:34 AM

    Polar Bear

    4 French Horns in Unison are already available in the Brass I package of the cube or Special edition.

    I am also after a set of deep bells.  That is a set between C2 and C4.  I have not seen these available in any sampled library.

    Regards

    Mirabile
  • P
    P
    Jan 22, 2008, 11:59 AM
    Jan 22, 2008, 11:59 AM
    I wouldn't mind seeing the 6 trumpets split into 2's. And the 8 or 4 horns split into 2's. I would like the trumpets to be all Bb's.
  • A
    A
    Jan 22, 2008, 12:12 PM last edited Oct 15, 2023, 5:15 PM
    Jan 22, 2008, 12:12 PM last edited Oct 15, 2023, 5:15 PM

    @PaulR said:

    I wouldn't mind seeing the 6 trumpets split into 2's. And the 8 or 4 horns split into 2's.
     

    I totally second Horns and Trumpets in pairs of 2. That would be very, véry useful.
  • G
    G
    Jan 22, 2008, 1:06 PM
    Jan 22, 2008, 1:06 PM

    Next year's wish

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    We'll be ready to sing this:

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    The Twelve Days of Christmas

    -

    On the first day of Christmas my true love came to me......

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    4 french horns, 3 second violins, 2 solo muted violin( and the rest) and a partridge in a pear tree.
  • M
    M
    Jan 22, 2008, 3:03 PM
    Jan 22, 2008, 3:03 PM
    Guy, Really nice... Alain LeBlond, Québec
  • W
    W
    Jan 22, 2008, 5:54 PM
    Jan 22, 2008, 5:54 PM

    Yes that is excellent Guy - my verse would go:

    ...two player desks, 2nd violin, more string mutes,  and a tam-tam with a big roll. [G]
  • P
    P
    Jan 23, 2008, 9:23 PM last edited Oct 15, 2023, 5:15 PM
    Jan 23, 2008, 9:23 PM last edited Oct 15, 2023, 5:15 PM

    @mirabile said:

    4 French Horns in Unison are already available in the Brass I package of the cube or Special edition.

    Didn't notice the French portion in these yet... anway, they're way down on my list and it's not a thing VSL is considering too hard at the moment, I know that 😉

    Cheers, 

    PolarBear
  • G
    G
    Jan 23, 2008, 10:10 PM
    Jan 23, 2008, 10:10 PM
    Polarbear, that's how the original lyrics of the song goes, I just kept the 4 french horns part to make a connection with the song. Remember? 3 french horns, 2 turtle doves....
  • P
    P
    Jan 24, 2008, 2:43 AM
    Jan 24, 2008, 2:43 AM

    Well, I guess it's not airing on german radio's ;) so nope, don't know it, but I could well imagine it being lyric and therefore just meant the answer being directed at mirabile and not your lyrical achievement ;)

    PolarBear