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  • Vienna Ensemble Software 2.0.3

    We've uploaded an new version of Vienna Ensemble.

    The multiple plugin bug is fixed (it's possible to use more than one instance of VE now)

    http://vsl.co.at/en/68/375/377/239.htm

    best

    Herb


  • we have been asked to keep versioning consitent with build numbering,

    so this version is now labeled 2.0.2781 (win) and 2.0.2779 (mac)

    christian


    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • I did wonder about that :P It loads the licenses much faster which is great.

  • Anything else new from the previous version?

    Thanks,
    J.

  • Should we uninstall the older version before installing this new one? Or will it install over the older?

    Thanks,
    Mahlon


  • jerome, minor bug fixes ... nothing worth mentioning ... recognition of new products added.

    mahlon, basically no need to uninstall a previous version, although we strongly recommend to reboot before updating.

    christian


    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
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    @cm said:

    jerome, minor bug fixes ... nothing worth mentioning ... recognition of new products added.

    mahlon, basically no need to uninstall a previous version, although we strongly recommend to reboot before updating.

    christian

    Hi Christian

    Please can you be a little more specific about what this update addresses.  "minor bug fixes, nothing worth mentioning" doesn't really give users much guidance.

    In particular, does this update fix the issues which users of Logic Pro on Mac have reported repeatedly on the forum, and which have apparently been acknowledged by the developers?

    Many thanks

    Jules


  • saving and loading projects with more than 1 VE has been fixed ... to what else are you referring in detail?

    christian


    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • Hi Christian

    Issues have been raised relating to Logic and VE crashes, loss of connection with the server application, spinning beachballs of death when instantiating, excessive CPU overhead and memory usage.  Personally I have seen all of these issues at one time or another, and now only use VE in standalone mode.

    Some of the threads in question are lsited below.  As you and Marnix appear to have acknowledged at least some of these issues, it would just be helpful to know which of them have been addressed, cannot be reproduced, or are still awaiting attention. 

    http://community.vsl.co.at/forums/p/17237/123321.aspx#123321

    http://community.vsl.co.at/forums/p/17254/123406.aspx#123406

    http://community.vsl.co.at/forums/p/17429/124677.aspx#124677

    http://community.vsl.co.at/forums/t/17267.aspx?PageIndex=2

    http://community.vsl.co.at/forums/p/17311/124008.aspx#124008

    I have also sent crashlogs to your support address, although these have never been acknowledged.

    Many thanks for any additional information.

    Regards

    Jules


  • I second that!

    I have brought up these problems more than once, waited patiently for the next version, and was hoping that the new version would mend them. Not so.

    The problems remain despite everything I have tried.

    Are the problems being adressed at this moment?

    Greetings,

    Gerard


  • Well FWIW although there clearly seem to be some improvements, it's certainly not running perfectly on our system (8 Core Mac Pro, 8GB Ram, Logic Pro 7.2.3 etc.).

    It does seem to load without some of the issues I was seeing previously (spinning beachballs of death, no connection to server etc.) which is definitely a big step forward.  However, even with just 3 matrices loaded if I record even basic automation in Logic (simple volume fades) I get choppy audio as a result.  After a while I exited Logic and immediately got a Vienna Ensemble crash.  I'm happy to post a crashlog tomorrow if it helps at all.

    I'll try and keep testing it further tomorrow and don't want to be too down on this release - I've no doubt the VSL guys have worked hard to make improvements - but there still seem to be some issues.

    Regards

    Jules


  • Well, I've managed to sort the automation related issues out - seems like VE doesn't like receiving Volume automation on separate MIDI channels.

    However, I'm seeing crashes about every couple of hours - sometimes when I open the VE GUI, ocassionally instantiating an instrument etc. - not really any particular pattern

    I'm happy to send crashlogs in if somebody wants to look at them, or I can post them here.

    It would be nice if we could at least get some kind of response on these issues.

    Thanks

    Jules


  • In case it helps, it looks like I have a reproducible recipe for these crashes now.  

    I can send my Logic song, VE project and anything else you need if it helps you preroduce and fix these crashes.  They only happen with the plugin - the standalone version with the same project loaded seems to work fine.

    Jules


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    thx so far, however it would be more helpful to email the crashlogs to support@vsl.co.at to get them forwarded .... because also our audio machines are not connected to the internet and the forum can't be read on them ....

    christian


    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • Hi Christian 

    I've sent the crashlogs in question to your support address.

    Please let me know if you require additional information. I'm very keen to help get these issues resolved ASAP.

    Regards

    Jules


  • jules, i just received a first rough feedback ... are you possibly running altiverb 5?

    this version is - so to speak - not supported and the issue should not occure with altiverb 6

    christian


    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • Hi Christian - thanks for the quick response.

    I'm using Altiverb 6.1.1, which is the latest version AFAIK.

    Regards

    Jules


  • Thanks, we also need to know, if the crash is reproduceable if no altiverb is inserted.

    best

    Herb


  • hi there. just purchased vienna special edition, was hoping to use it in protools via the vienna ensemble RTAS plugin. installed everything, most seems to be working, but i only see one midi channel available to me. any advice?

  • Hi,

    You'll need to give us a bit more to go on... A bit more info on your setup would help. But, for now...

    I'm using both VI and VE with PT7.3cs5 (Pro Tools|HD) and it all works absolutely beautifully. I also have the Special Edition as well as some of the individual VIs. When you use the Vienna Instruments then obviously there is only one MIDI channel per instance but when used inside Ensemble you create various instruments and assign a separate MIDI channel to each (you do need to do this yourself, they default to OMNI otherwise). So that might explain it. Certainly I'm getting 16 MIDI channels per instance of Vienna Ensemble. But as you say you've only just purchased the SE I wonder whether you might be confusing Vienna Ensemble with the Vienna Instruments plug-in? The latter (VI) comes on the DVD in the box, the former (VE) is a free download from the user area on this website once you've registered but you won't find it on the DVD. 

    Certainly you would only get one MIDI channel per instance of VI. For multiple MIDI channels you need to download VE. Do excuse me if I've guessed this wrong but the simplest solution is so often the right one...

    Anyway, if you can give me a bit more info I'll do my best to help as I'm a fellow PT/VI user.

    Regards

    Nick 


    Mac Mini M2 16Gb RAM 500Gb int. SSD 2Tb ext. SSD Pro Tools/Mixbus An awful lot of VI, Synchron-ised and Synchron libraries, amongst others. VSL user since 2003.