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I just need someone to tell me how to use this efficiently. I assume I'm not suppose to load an instance for each part, so how do I play the parts seperately.
A simple example:
Violin 1
Violin 2
Viola
Cello
Bass
All in the same VE instance, recording each part with a new take. I'm guessing this is used with MIDI chan like RMX? A step by step guide would be helpful.
Thanks,
Nathan
In Logic's environment, create a new multi-instrument - - this will have 16 channels. Wire the multi-instrument to Instrument 1 on the MIxer page of the Environment. (To move an object from one layer of the Environment to another, select the object, hold down the option key while selecting the layer of the Environment to which you wish to move the object.) Name the Multi-Instrument something like VE. 1 After you have done this, load a multi-channel instance of VE into Instrument 1. Go to the arrange page. You will find that, when you right-click or contol-click a track, you can reassign it to VE 1, channels 1 - 16). Load the instruments into VE as you desire.
IMPORTANT NOTE: If you are using what is, at present, the most current OSX version of VE - - dated 2007-11-08 - - DO NOT ATTEMPT INSTANTIATION OF MORE THAN ONE INSTANCE OF VE. (This will still give you 16 channels to work with.) If you instantiate more than one instance of VE, it will work as long as the file is open, but once you've saved and closed the file, attempting to open it again will result in a crash. In other words you will not be able to re-open the file!
It is important to remember that, in Logic, MIDI Volume (CC7) changes will affect all 16 channels of a multi-instrument simultaneously. Since this is rarely desirable, use MIDI Expression (CC11) to affect changes in level for each channel - MIDI Expression settings can function independently on all 16 channels.
Thanks. I actually had figured that out from reading Stylus instructions, but I appreciate the help.
I saw your other post on running it stand alone. I'd really appreciate on how to do that, the post never really showed exactly how you did it.
To route audio from the standalone into Logic I did the following:
1. I ran a short ADAT cable (8 channels, 4 stereo pairs) from the output of Bank C of my MOTU 2408 to the input of Bank C of the same MOTU 2408.
2. I set the output of the standalone to channels 17-18. This means that the signal flow will go from outputs 17-18 of Bank C to inputs 9-10 of the 2408.
3. I created an AUX channel in Logic. I set its inputs to channels 9-10 and its outputs to channels 1-2. I use a send on the AUX to route the signal to a bus channel for reverb, EQ etc.
Voilà the audio from the standalone appears in outputs 1-2.
For MIDI connections:
1. Activate the IAC driver in Audio MIDI Setup. (Double click on the IAC Driver Icon, a dialog box appears, make sure "DEvice is Online is checked.)
2. Create the requisite number of ports in the dialgo box.
3. In Logic's Environment create a new multi-instrument and name it. (e.g. IAC 1)
4. Assign the appropriate IAC port as the input port for the multi-instrument.
5. In the clicks and ports page of Logic's Environment create a new Monitor.
5. Wire the appropriate IAC port on the Physical Input Object to the monitor (This prevents MIDI feedback problems).
6. Go to the Arrange page. If right-click or control click on a track, you will discover the option of assigning the track to a channel of the multi-instrument you created. (Thus it might be IAC 1-1, IAC 1-2, etc)
I hope this is helpful.
Man, and I thought I was done...
I have run into another problem It works absolutely great with the VE stand alone with 1 instance, but I can't run it this way with multiple instances. In fact, it seems VE won't take MIDI input from more than one instance. If you load one VE up, it'll react just fine MIDI wise. Load up another, and it won't respond to any MIDI input at all.
Currently I have 4 instances, with 4 IAC ports. Each instance has a seperate port selected. There are 4 multis in Logic, each with IAC 1,2,3, and 4 assigned to it. Also all the MIDI channels are selected corrently on both sides of Logic and VE.
So basically, the first instance responds no problems. The 2nd instance and on does not respond, even if you set the MIDI from the iAC to just your keyboard. It seems only the first VE instance works.
Btw, what I mean by stand alone instances, I mean copying each "Vienna Ensemble" application so I can have multiple ones open. I copied just the app that was in the folder, so if there's a correct way to do this (preferences, etc) please post it here.
EDIT:
I also wanted to state I use an IntelMac with OSX Leopard, and use an Apogee Ensemble for an audio interface (there may be a way to loop back the audio with just this?)
I'm routing audio with JackOSX, which only works with sound. That's all working properly.
I'm so close, can anyone comment?
This has been answered in another discussion. The answer was that JackOSX doesn't work with multiple VE instances. Well, they have a beta now that does work. So those that need it won't have to wait long.
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