I have one, but have yet to master it. I'm totally useless with it ATM. [:(]
DG
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hetoreyn,
maybe you can still get one and plug it into the expression input on your controller, if it has one.
Then you maybe able to reprogram the incoming midi data in your sequencer or even better just have whatever midi data is generated from that input be the control message for the VI.
I bought it for a just under $100 US. It is now worth many times thatto me.
regards,
david
Hi DG,
I'm not that good yet either, but after only about 1 hour of total time spent on it so far I'm starting to get a good response and decent control.
I just checked out a website that provides steps to cirrcular breathing. I want to try to learn it. Will definitely take a while but I think it is well worth the trouble.
Right now everytime I take a breath the controller value falls to the default setting, zero, which is set on the side of the unit. I would like to be able to create long, sustained notes with cres and dims throughout without the velocity setting falling to 0 unless thats what I want.
At this point I am convinced that programming music into a computer and getting a realistic sound almost requires a breath controller. Although the best among us can do without one the amount of manual labor that the breath controller with allow you to circumvent is staggering when you take into consideration the amount of time it takes to get everything to sound just right in a large orchestral piece.
Once mastered, the breath controller will shave hours off painstaking task of creating those realistic crescendos and diminuendos and will shape your melodic lines more like a real player.
I'm starting to sound like an info-mmercial so I'll stop here and say if you have one use it and you don't then go out and buy one ASAP.
Thanks,
David
Interesting. I always thought those would be for wind players to use, just because that is the way they are used to playing dynamics. Would it help the non-wind players? I will have to look into it.
Colin Thomson
Hetorey, you might be interested in this:
Don't have any experiance with it, just found it on a google search. But it looks like it takes midi in from you keyboard controller, and midi info from the BC3a, and sends it out in one midi line. Has anyone had experiance with this? Is it a good option?
Colin Thomson
But, if I am not mistaken, it is the cheapest option if your keyboard doesn't have an input for the BC3A. Am I correct?
Colin Thomson
Hi Colin,
I am not a wind player.
My main instrument is guitar. I play piano to work out my compositions and improvise on ideas.
I have no skill on any wind or brass instrument but I am still able to use the BC3a with quit a nice effect.
What I am doing to get proficient is playing through orchestral scores. Not really being picky. Going from Beethoven to Bartok...picking out wind and brass parts and hacking through them.
I'm having lots of fun!!!!
I can't believe I lived without this thing for so long.
Also want to mention that my keyboard controller is a CME UF8.
Regards,
David
All of you are pretty lucky. I'm still using a mouse to do my sequencing. At least it forces me to learn about note lengths.
I have a expression port on my UF8, I also have an 1/8" to 1/4" adapter. The BC3a has an 1/8" connection.
I will see if the unit can be plugged into an expression port and still work.
Trying it now............
Nope it does not work. I thought it would, sorry to get your hopes up.
The midi track does not register any info if the breath controller is connected to the expression port.
David
@ColinThomson said:
Hetorey, you might be interested in this:
Don't have any experiance with it, just found it on a google search. But it looks like it takes midi in from you keyboard controller, and midi info from the BC3a, and sends it out in one midi line. Has anyone had experiance with this? Is it a good option?
Colin Thomson
I just ordered my MIDI Solutions Breath Controller Converter and a Yamaha BC3.
I can't wait to try it on my Vienna Instruments.
Daniël
Hi CplusE,
Christian Kardeis is using the breath controller all the time [:)]
Take a look at the Special Edition Demo Song #1 (you can see how it is applied in the "Project files". As you have not licensed a collection yet, as far as I can see, open the inlcuded MIDI file). The Video Tutorials should also be interesting for you!
Best,
Paul
@DG said:
I have one, but have yet to master it. I'm totally useless with it ATM.
DG
I picked one of these up with high hopes of adding some nice smooth dynamics to my sequences, and I must say that I'm in the same as DG here. I too am totally useless with it ATM, and I'm a wind player to boot! Is it possible that my breath controller may be broken?
@DG said:
I have one, but have yet to master it. I'm totally useless with it ATM.
DG
I picked one of these up with high hopes of adding some nice smooth dynamics to my sequences, and I must say that I'm in the same as DG here. I too am totally useless with it ATM, and I'm a wind player to boot! Is it possible that my breath controller may be broken?
Since my original post I have improved a lot. However, the settings are really hard to get right, and the whole appliance feels very cheap and plasticy. I know that VSL doesn't want to get involved in the hardware game, but this is one specialised area that would be really helpful.
DG
DG
I was wondering if you'd be willing (and anyone else as well) to share the settings that you use? I've been using mine now for about a month now and I find that I have an easier time using the controller with the brass and wind sections than I do with the strings (which I guess makes sense). I would really like to use it with the strings, but I just haven't been able to get the smoothness that I'm looking for. I was just curious to hear how everyone uses their's and what settings they use (ie. what do you assign it to; Velocity X-fade, Expression, both)?
--Lee
DG
I was wondering if you'd be willing (and anyone else as well) to share the settings that you use? I've been using mine now for about a month now and I find that I have an easier time using the controller with the brass and wind sections than I do with the strings (which I guess makes sense). I would really like to use it with the strings, but I just haven't been able to get the smoothness that I'm looking for. I was just curious to hear how everyone uses their's and what settings they use (ie. what do you assign it to; Velocity X-fade, Expression, both)?
--Lee
I don't think that anything I share would help very much, as my system is probably not like anyone else's on the planet.....! Broadly speaking I assign Expression and Filter to the BC, but getting the curve right is the trick, and that is dependant on the setting with your BC, which I don't have access to.