VI & Panning

[jovan]

It took me some time, but now I found of that VI doesn't recognize & play PAN values.
Is that true or a mistake of mine?
If it is true it is poor for a sample player of this class.
I do not know any other sample player (I own Kontakt, Independence, GS3, VSampler) and a lot of software synthesizers. Any of it recognizes PAN values.

VI & no PAN is that really true?
Cannot believe it.

[:)] Jovan

[JWL]

all 127 control channels are available with VI and all are designed to be operative and responsive.

you must double check all aspects your DAW's and input device's control send settings and VI's control receive settings to ensure that you have not overlooked any small but important details.

The numerous demo mixes you have heard could not have been accomplished without the ability to pan.

[Jay Weigel]

I must say that I too have problems getting VI to recognize panning when sent from my sequencer of chose, Cubase. I will double check all of my settings and see what I have missed. I am gld to know that others have sucessfully triggered panning.

Jay

[jovan]

@JWL said:

all 127 control channels are available with VI and all are designed to be operative and responsive.

you must double check all aspects your DAW's and input device's control send settings and VI's control receive settings to ensure that you have not overlooked any small but important details.

The numerous demo mixes you have heard could not have been accomplished without the ability to pan.

Thanks, I tried a lot - but maybe I'm stupid.
Few minutes ago I played around with VI stand allone player and my EDIROL PCR-30 keyboard (which works perfect with GS3, Kontakt 2, Albino 3 and so on). I loaded different patches into VI, the PAN knob of the PC-30 does not have any effect to the pan position of the instrument loaded in VI.

I also did not find a possibility to assign a the PAN controller to a PAN in VI.

Okay I can adjust the PAN in the SONAR or LIVE Mixer, but this is not, what I try to achieve. (BTW: I know with the mixer of the hosts I can adjust every pan position).

Any help available? Thanks.

[:)] Jovan

[jovan]

BTW:

VI allows to controll:

Expression
Master Attack
Master Filter Freq
Master Release
Pitch
Rel.samples On/Off
Slot crossfader
Vel.xfade On/Off
Velocity crossfader
Volume

(naturality Key velocity)

And I may assign each contoller to these perform controls.

But where is PAN?

If anybody of you have been triggered PAN inside VI via Sequence, Keyboard or notation program - please let us know!

Many thanks,

[:)] Jovan

[hetoreyn]

Well I guess they left the pan control uptothe mixing on the sequencer .. which makes sense cos if you have two pan controls and forget you'd already used one then you might have some spurius panning going on .. or something like that.

I dunno, but personally I find having the mixing pan quite enough for me.

[jovan]

@hetoreyn said:

Well I guess they left the pan control uptothe mixing on the sequencer .. which makes sense cos if you have two pan controls and forget you'd already used one then you might have some spurius panning going on .. or something like that.

I dunno, but personally I find having the mixing pan quite enough for me.

Sometimes this is not so comfortable, expecially if you have changing PAN positions of instruments and you want to trigger it by (MIDI) sequencer.

But it's funny enough, I learned by accident that PAN did not work inside VI by accident!
No word in the description!
PAN is a function which I expect by a sampler automatically!

[:)] Jovan

[DG]

When you have stereo samples panning in MIDI is a bad idea. You should really pan (in Nuendo, so I assume Cubase also) from the VST outputs as you can collapse the stereo width to help preserve the sound. If you pan via MIDI all you are doing is raising one sound of the sample over the other. Not the best thing to do.

DG

[jovan]

@DG said:

When you have stereo samples panning in MIDI is a bad idea. You should really pan (in Nuendo, so I assume Cubase also) from the VST outputs as you can collapse the stereo width to help preserve the sound. If you pan via MIDI all you are doing is raising one sound of the sample over the other. Not the best thing to do.

DG

O yes, I aggree. That what I'm normally doing.
And that was why I need some weeks to find out that PAN is not working in VI.
But this I will not accept as an excuse that a function like PAN is not integrated in VI.

[:)] Jovan

[julian]

As DG says VI is a stereo instrument so by default it cannot have a true pan function.

If you sent the output fully to the left you wouldn't here the right sample at all.

In a mixing desk scenario you would use 2 pan-pots on mono channels and control the position and width at the same tme. In DAW's you can first control the width with a mono/stereo width plug-in then pan the result where you want it.

If the VI was to have intgeral panning it would either have to have a 2 pan controls for left and right or a width control followed by pan or an automatic matrix that reduced the width the further the image was panned. Any other solution causes loss of data.


Julian

[Dietz]

As Julian says. BTW - we had a discussion on this topic in our Mixing & PostPro-Forum recently:
- > http://community.vsl.co.at/viewtopic.php?t=9452

[jovan]

@Dietz said:

As Julian says. BTW - we had a discussion on this topic in our Mixing & PostPro-Forum recently:
- > http://community.vsl.co.at/viewtopic.php?t=9452

Alles klar!

[:)] Jovan