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  • Is VI truly stand-alone?

    Hello:

    Is the stand-alone version of VI a true stand-alone product (like GS or Kontact) or does it require some sort of (VST) host such as V-Stack, etc.?

    This question has come up on several threads but not been clearly answered as far as I can tell. It may be very basic and perhaps obvious to others but not to me. Thank you.

    Be well,

    Poppa

  • poppa, the VI stand-alone is a *true* sample player and doesn't need something except a midi source. the plugin version of course does - both come with the installer. for MACs you get a plugin relying on AU.
    christian

    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • Christian:

    Thank you very much. From communications I have recently had I can tell you I'm not the only one who was confused about this.

    Be well,

    Poppa

  • The VI is stand-alone but not similar to Kontakt, or GS. (I think this is important to clarify).

    It is NOT multi-timbral., you only get one instrument as a stand alone, which makes no sense in a real world situation, to have the VI run on a dedicated computer, you need a host application, the VI would then be a plug-in instrument within the host appl. , each instance is an instrument, i.e. one instance for your oboe, another instance for your cello section, and a third instance for your flute, ...etc.

    So, a Host application is a must, to make any sense of a stand alone concept. Unless you want to run one instrument per computer [:D]

    Well, this is my understanding of the VI, so far.

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    @muziksculp said:

    The VI is stand-alone but not similar to Kontakt, or GS. (I think this is important to clarify).

    It is NOT multi-timbral., you only get one instrument as a stand alone, which makes no sense in a real world situation, to have the VI run on a dedicated computer, you need a host application, the VI would then be a plug-in instrument within the host appl. , each instance is an instrument, i.e. one instance for your oboe, another instance for your cello section, and a third instance for your flute, ...etc.

    So, a Host application is a must, to make any sense of a stand alone concept. Unless you want to run one instrument per computer [:D]

    Well, this is my understanding of the VI, so far.


    muziksculp:

    Thanks for your reply. I really think it is important that this be explained clearly. I get the impression that a lot of people either have misconceptions or are confused about this. I, for one, don't understand the concept of a stand-alone that requires a host application. Based on your explanation above, it is not incorrect for VSL to say the VI is a true stand alone but it is misleading in that it gives the impression that you don't need anything else with it (except MIDI and audio interfaces). So, the pertinent question is, can you run multiple instances of VI without a host application?

    Please understand that this is not a complaint about the product. It is a plea for clarity. We will make our decisions on what to buy based on our conception of the product since we don't have it in hand. So, would someone from the VSL please confirm whether muziksculp's explanation is correct?

    Thank you.

    Be Well,

    Poppa

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    @muziksculp said:

    The VI is stand-alone but not similar to Kontakt, or GS. (I think this is important to clarify).

    It is NOT multi-timbral., you only get one instrument as a stand alone, which makes no sense in a real world situation, to have the VI run on a dedicated computer, you need a host application, the VI would then be a plug-in instrument within the host appl. , each instance is an instrument, i.e. one instance for your oboe, another instance for your cello section, and a third instance for your flute, ...etc.

    So, a Host application is a must, to make any sense of a stand alone concept. Unless you want to run one instrument per computer [:D]

    Well, this is my understanding of the VI, so far.


    What would stop you from starting up several instances of the standalone VI program (one for each instrument) on the same computer? As I see it that would very well count as being able to use VI (as a whole) as standalone. Someone from VSL would have to confirm though, that doing this is indeed possible.

    However, although I don't think it's a must, I agree that using a host is the only practical thing to do when loading several instruments.

    Cheers,
    Nils

  • Hello,

    This is not getting any clearer!
    Can someone from VSL please elaborate on this 'stand-alone' or 'plug-in 'issue?
    I was glad when I read that 'stand-alone' would be possible, but of course I (and everybody) means: stand-alone in the same way as GS3 functions now on a separate computer. If it is not possible to use VI in this way, or if there is a logical way to accomplish the same thing in another way, I would like to know it.

    Greetings,

    Gerard Beljon

  • Doesn't the word 'standalone' imply that the application can function without ANY other application backing it up?

    That would mean VI doesn't need any GigaStudio, Sonar, Logic or whatever to function. After all, they are also making a plugin available... so standalone should mean stand-ALONE.

  • Hi everybody,

    right now, the standalone mode of the Vienna Instruments was designed for performers, who use one instrument, so it´s only 1 Vienna Instrument at a time, stable and reliable. If you want to use more on a dedicated computer, simply make use of a VSTi chainer.

    Hope that helps.

    Best, Paul

    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    @Paul said:

    Hi everybody,

    right now, the standalone mode of the Vienna Instruments was designed for performers, who use one instrument, so it´s only 1 Vienna Instrument at a time, stable and reliable. If you want to use more on a dedicated computer, simply make use of a VSTi chainer.

    Hope that helps.

    Best, Paul


    Thanks Paul, for clearifying the confusion on defining stand-alone. as far as the VI is concerned.

    I think this is echoing what I mentioned earlier on this thread.

    Maybe a list of recommended, and tested host applications for the VI, that are efficient, and very stable, for Both the MAC and PC would be nice to have on the VSL website.

    Thanks.

  • Just a thing I thought about... with all the unstable Giga computers vs. rock solid ones - perhaps it's a good idea to keep tracking of the used hardware, i.e. RAM type, chipset, mainboard and so on when doing the tests... though it could still lead to unpredictable behaviour like cm pointed out in another post, it may help the user when building a new computer for the only purpose to use VSL VI's.

    Just my 1.95 cent,
    PolarBear

  • Jimmy and company,
    I believe I've heard Paul say in another thread that Vienna will conduct a series of tests with an eye toward preparing a list of VST hosts/chainers that work with VI. We'll all have to keep scanning the FAQ for the addition of this list.
    Kevin

  • Hi !

    Some of my customer use the complete orchestral package with Gigastudio and gigateleport. They have a default performance for each computer (strings, brass....) So Giga is always ready to play, and the sequencer can load the projects very fast.

    I see one major drawback with the VI + Vsti Host + Fx-Teleport solution : Each time you want to load a new project, the computer(s) need to reload all the samples. So these users would have to wait a long time before all the computers will be ready...