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  • VI and FX-Teleport

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    I've just had an email from Support at FX-Max to say that they think that the new VI should work just fine, but as they have nothing to test with they can't be 100% sure.

    Is there any way that VSL could liaise with them on this, because it makes perfect sense to run memory hungry VSTi on slave PCs, and it would be great if all us GS (and Kontakt) users could convert our GS machines to VI machines and still use Teleport?

    DG
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    Yes, the testing results will be online, as soon as we´re ready.
    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    @Paul said:

    Yes, the testing results will be online, as soon as we´re ready.


    This is super important moving forward. Please show alternatives like VSTACK, Brainspawn Forte, etc.


    Rob
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    I think FXTeleport is a great product and I hope it works for the folks who are considering it for the new VSL VI's.

    One word of caution from a prevous user, though: there is a problem with the software that causes crackles and pops to start to occur and become worse as you continue to work. For me, I think it generally started after about an hour or so then continued to get worse until I had to shut everything down and restart after 90 minutes or a couple of hours (going on memory here, but that seems about right). This problem has been acknowledged by a number of other users, as well. Basically you have to continually increase the network latency setting until the software becomes unusable. Then the standard programmer's fix: reboot.

    I bought FXTeleport and was hoping that it would save me the expense of another sound card/MIDI interface and because I was using Halion 2 as a sampler (which won't run standalone - it needs a VST host). But stopping every couple of hours to re-load everything became very tedious (I never saw any updates that addressed the problem) so when Hal3 came along with standalone capability, I got it and another sound card and haven't used FXTeleport since. There used to be a bunch of discussion about it on the FX-Max forum and the Halion forum but both have been "reset" since those days so the posts aren't there anymore.

    As I said, I hope it works but I had no luck over many months trying to run sampling VST's. It seems to work fine for FX VST's (hence the name?).

    So, I STRONGLY recommend that you get the demo version and try it out (if there is still a demo). The problem is that you can't "try out" the VSL instrument, so it's a tricky situation...

    Caveat emptor.

    rgames
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    @rgames said:

    I think FXTeleport is a great product and I hope it works for the folks who are considering it for the new VSL VI's.

    One word of caution from a prevous user, though: there is a problem with the software that causes crackles and pops to start to occur and become worse as you continue to work. For me, I think it generally started after about an hour or so then continued to get worse until I had to shut everything down and restart after 90 minutes or a couple of hours (going on memory here, but that seems about right). This problem has been acknowledged by a number of other users, as well. Basically you have to continually increase the network latency setting until the software becomes unusable. Then the standard programmer's fix: reboot.

    I bought FXTeleport and was hoping that it would save me the expense of another sound card/MIDI interface and because I was using Halion 2 as a sampler (which won't run standalone - it needs a VST host). But stopping every couple of hours to re-load everything became very tedious (I never saw any updates that addressed the problem) so when Hal3 came along with standalone capability, I got it and another sound card and haven't used FXTeleport since. There used to be a bunch of discussion about it on the FX-Max forum and the Halion forum but both have been "reset" since those days so the posts aren't there anymore.

    As I said, I hope it works but I had no luck over many months trying to run sampling VST's. It seems to work fine for FX VST's (hence the name?).

    So, I STRONGLY recommend that you get the demo version and try it out (if there is still a demo). The problem is that you can't "try out" the VSL instrument, so it's a tricky situation...

    Caveat emptor.

    rgames


    I have been using FX Teleport for over two years now, never had such problems.
    I am using it with Halion3, Giga3, EWQLSO, Kontakt2...etc
    It isn't a FX Teleport problem, it is a computer problem probably.
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    Yes, it works fine on all three PCs. The only winkle is that I can't use GigaPulse within GS, but now I have the VST, I am realising that I'm not missing anything [:D]

    DG
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    same here, never had troubles with FXT and i am using K2 with it.

    the only thing which was really a mess, was a problem with the different kontakt.dll's from different computers. it seemed that the master computer had problems by dividing the different dll's. so maybe that problem is solved already but IF you encounter problems like that (or funny echoes when using firewalls etc.):

    just rename the dlls for instance: first computer: kontakt.dll to kontakt001.dll
    2nd pc = kontakt002.dll etc.

    this makes it easier as to know where the different dlls you load into your main pc are coming from.

    warning: you have to of course rename the dll on the slaves NOT on the already imported dll's on the main pc in the fxt folder.

    also don't rename the dll's on your slave to a different one. if you do that, you must scan again. hope that helps in addition [:)]
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    @Patrick de Caumette said:


    I have been using FX Teleport for over two years now, never had such problems.
    I am using it with Halion3, Giga3, EWQLSO, Kontakt2...etc
    It isn't a FX Teleport problem, it is a computer problem probably.


    As I recall, it was acknowledged by Max at FX-Max and (I know for a fact) by a number of other users. You are right that it might be specific to my computer and network setup but that doesn't change the fact that it never worked. I worked with Max and a number of other users trying to find a network configuration that worked but the problem persisted. Maybe there's a newer version that fixes the problem.

    Remember, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

    rgames
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    Surely one of the drawbacks for VI will be that due VI switching to be a VSTi, people who were using multiple Giga computers will be forced to use V-Stack to run the VSTi's. A huge drawback of this is that VStack will only host 16 instruments on one machine. Unless VI can have multiple intruments per instance, this will result in a significally reduced instrument count when running on VStack as opposed to Giga. Maybe it's a little early to tell but that kinda sucks. Is there any other VSTi host that can run more than 16 instances? (i.e., not a seqencer but just a hosting application).

    Thanks
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    @RichardJacques said:

    Surely one of the drawbacks for VI will be that due VI switching to be a VSTi, people who were using multiple Giga computers will be forced to use V-Stack to run the VSTi's. A huge drawback of this is that VStack will only host 16 instruments on one machine. Unless VI can have multiple intruments per instance, this will result in a significally reduced instrument count when running on VStack as opposed to Giga. Maybe it's a little early to tell but that kinda sucks. Is there any other VSTi host that can run more than 16 instances? (i.e., not a seqencer but just a hosting application).

    Thanks


    Thats why there is FXT [:)]
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    So does FX Teleport act as a VST host on the remote machine then? Sorry I don't know much about it because I sequence on a Mac and run 8 Giga PC's and was told there wasn't a version that could do Mac - PC. Would you still need to run VStack with FX teleport then?
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    oh sorry richard, i didn't know you are on mac ... just thought about pc onyl again. my fault [:)] yes as far as i know there is no mac version of fxt

    well, fx teleport basically adds the dll's of your main pc's vstplugins folder.
    inside cubase or anyother sequencer you then find the e.g. "kontaktvsti" BUT which stands for the vsti on your slave.

    so you can open 8 instances of kontakt on your slave pc then. to be honest i don't need more than 8 instances because on a newer you could just open 4 instances fully loaded anyway.

    also you don't need fxt AND vstack which would be kind of the same thing. hopefully there will be a mac version soon!
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    @RichardJacques said:

    So does FX Teleport act as a VST host on the remote machine then? Sorry I don't know much about it because I sequence on a Mac and run 8 Giga PC's and was told there wasn't a version that could do Mac - PC. Would you still need to run VStack with FX teleport then?


    I belive that the Mac version of FX is being tested at the moment. I would email Max to find out the current status.

    DG
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    OK coo, thanks for the tips. Looking forward to the Mac version soon! (hurry up please Max!! I'll happily Beta test it!)