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Anothe Balvenie fan, eh? That's my absolute favourite. Now if they could only marry that drop of elixir with the VSL samples: 'twould indeed be bliss...
@irvind said:
14 days until what?
Until the Symphonic Cube, for sure.
The link on the Japanese site has gone now.
Heh, heh, they've been rumbled.
@Plowman said:
[...] As Synful's technology is well known to VSL, no doubt Garritan's method is too. [...]
@paynterr said:
Very well put...
I too have been arguing recently over at the Halion forum, the need to move away from real-time live playing... I think the current integration of VSL into DAWs is pretty horrible IMHO. I have both the pro-edition and the performance tool. Despite my outlay of cash for the latter, I find the integration of the Performance Tool such a pain in the bum that I don't bother with it. I just run my projects on a single machine and like it kept that way.
I do hope that this announcement is something truly revolutionary, rather than just more of the same.
More samples, added together with more CPU and harder integration would not make me upgrade... especially since I haven't bothered with the performance tool.
What I would like to see is less emphasis on the sampler and real-time playing and instead, a new SINGLE cross-platform VSL VSTi that acts rather like Synful does in that it buffers up the midi, looks ahead at what is being played and selects and plays the appropriate samples from a large database.
To do this, it shouldn't even have to pre-load any of the samples into memory... and should therefore be able to load into the DAW immediately. Instead, it merely acts as an intelligent file-indexing service that maps midi for a given instrument to the relevant samples, handling legato, repetition, stacatto etc. along the way intelligently.
This would be partly what the performance tool does at the moment, but with far easier integration into the DAW (e.g. no separate application, just a VSTi plug-in) and the buggering off (tm) of the performance tool as a stand alone tool... plus all the virtual/real midi routing that goes along with it.
I spoke to someone recently who has been developing such a tool (unofficially) for VSL... a sample selection tool.
Presumably this new VSL VSTi (VSLi???) would then be the foundation block for what would become MIR?
MIR would be the addition of reverb and spacial placing of the instruments based on instrument selection...
I think we need to move away from thinking about "samplers"... and about thinking about providing VSTi instruments that - in effect - behave as a set of real professional musicians would behave when placed in front of you.
They don't need micro-managing... they just need to be told how fast, how loud, what articulation to play... they work out the rest based on their 30 years of playing expertise. You then spend time working out what it is you want them to play. That is the interface between composer and player.
So - this is what I am hoping it is... I don't get at all turned on by yet more gigabytes of samples that I won't end up using as setting up in-memory templates is such a pain... If, however, I can use more of these samples, in-passing, without perhaps even realising it and without needing to load them into memory, that, for me would be a DEFINITE reason to spend a lot more money.
here's hoping....
@dummy said:
This is the kind of thing I'm hoping for in VSL's future. I recently purchased the VSL Pro edition and have had to move from VSTi samplers such as HALion/Kontakt to Gigastudio, which I've found to be frustratingly restrictive. I really miss the ability to mix down my audio at faster-than-real time, I miss my performance sets being saved in my sequencer, I miss my audio being output directly into my sequencer through VST channels and I miss the reliability and accuracy of audio that is buffered similar to how Kontakt/HALion work rather than live. If it wasn't such a huge library, I'd have begun converting to a VSTi sampler. I wish VSL came as a stand alone VSTi (built-in-performance tool included) so that I don't have to rely on an external sampler, figure out MIDI routing or have to worry about which sampler I should buy it for.
I understand that most of my minor issues are down to the sampler software itself, rather than VSL. Here's hoping the Symphonic Cube comes in Kontakt/HALion format. At least that will be closer to how I'd like to use VSL.
@Plowman said:
[...] As Synful's technology is well known to VSL, no doubt Garritan's method is too. [...]
@paulhenrysmith said:
a) sold separately (or even made available free of charge to customers)
