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  • What is the maximum instruments possible?

    G
    G
    Hello,

    I like working with detailed orchestration, I'm therefore obliged to use a lot of instruments. Beyond 60 instruments, (many are the same instr. but with different features of course) even when I freeze my tracks it's overloading. I MUST use more than 60, what can I do?

    Guy
  • O
    O
    There is one solution I know of besides getting more computers. Make the song in your sequencer, but split the files up, such as woodwinds, brass, strings, percussion, into 4 different *.gsp files. Then record them all and match up the audio. Before you ask, yes, it is a pain. That's the only way I can think of. Either that or buy more RAM or more computers.
  • G
    G
    Thank you Omega, that's what I was fearing. I already used that alternative and it does work well, but... will hooking two G5 work?

    Guy
  • P
    P
    Are you running a sampler in the same computer as your sequencer? There is no problem running a few hundred tracks in a sequencer simultaneously as long as you keep it dedicated for the sequencer. Run samplers on different computers. Detailed orchestration and midi-mockup recording has a serious price tag... [:)]

    Cheers,

    Peter
    www.PeterRoos.com
    www.Samplicity.com
  • P
    P
    another way is this:

    once you're happy with a line - vln1, for example, with 20 layers of detailed 'instruments' - rather than freezing the VST, bounce that group to audio, and unload the samples from the VST.

    if you need, save a bank of your most-used patches - for easier access, if changes need to be made.

    you've probably made a tidy folder with all the related instrument MIDI tracks - mute the folder, lock it, back it up (duplicate folder) if you want - it's there if you need to make any changes.

    then go on to the next folder of instrument tracks.

    bounce.
    rinse.
    repeat as needed.

    hth

    Peter

    PS: what's your spec? I can see you have a G5 - EXS/Logic? RAM? no of HDs?
  • E
    E
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    @Guy said:

    Hello,

    I like working with detailed orchestration, I'm therefore obliged to use a lot of instruments. Beyond 60 instruments, (many are the same instr. but with different features of course) even when I freeze my tracks it's overloading. I MUST use more than 60, what can I do?

    Guy
    SampleMerge for one. Have more than 4GB of RAM installed. YOu should be able to load approx 200-300 instrument files this way.

    Evan Evans
  • O
    O
    I thought the max you could use was 2 GB of RAM...?
  • E
    E
    Were talking mac right? If so then you need RAM for the virtual memory too. Approx 5GB to 12GB of sounds are loaded into virtual memory. Kind of complicated. But the more RAM you got the better off you are.

    I've spent my time, payed my dues, posting about this stuff before. Do some searches, because it really is an interesting topic and it's been thoroughly discussed.

    Evan Evans
  • PaulP
    VSL Team
    PaulP
    Hello,

    Evan is probably talking about the longest thread in the EXS-forum:

    http://community.vsl.co.at/viewtopic.php?t=2579&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=breakthrough&start=0">http://community.vsl.co.at/viewtopic.php?t=2579&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=breakthrough&start=0

    We cannot officially confirm if the theories dicussed in this forum are working or not, but I am sure that Evan will be happy to answer all questions concerning this "groundbreaking workaround".

    Best wishes, Paul
    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
  • G
    G
    I cannot thank you enough Evans, Paul, Omega and Peter.

    Evans, I obviously got the right person for this question. I'm in the progress of examining all these answers, if it works out in the end this will be a great blessing for me considering the frustration this has been. As I work on this I'll keep you updated and more specifically the stages in progress. Get back to you soon.

    Thans a lot (everybody!)

    Guy
  • E
    E
    Very good Guy. I'm sure you are going to make some excellent progress.

    Evan Evans