My First VSL Piece! I'm so happy!

[dunk187]

Hi VSL community,

Greetings, I'm new and I'm really stoked about this sample library. Check out this new piece called "Paradox". It's the Overture for an indie film coming soon. This was done with the First Edition using 8 instances of GigaPulse with GS3. I'm still a little confused as to how the best way to use gigapulse. This way is VERY time consuming. I look forward to hearing how you all used it! I'd love some feedback also. Thanks.

http://www.cratewatchers.com/sample3.mp3

[mathis]

Wow, intense listening session, four pieces now [H]

This is the first time I heard portamento samples used in a not embarrasing way. Great! I didn´t know up to now why I should use them.
The bassoon is to mechanical. Also I would like to have it with less reverb. Furthermore it sounds too faded.
I like the clocks, but I could say good bye to them earlier. Although I like the variation with the violin pizz. Maybe forget that notion.
The mix seems not to be right yet. The brass is very fat in the low end but the trumpets although they schmetter are barely audible in comparison.

A very good start I would say. Keep on the good work!
Bests and welcome to the forum,
- Mathis

[William]

I also thought this was very good. I had one suggestion - make the clocks synced with the beat. That would be cool.

I am curious what this film is about. The music sounds very big and powerful but it's an independent film? About what? I hope it's not a tender neo-realist love story... [[;)]]

[dunk187]

Hey Thanks guys!

Yeah I agree that the mix is not quite polished as of yet. Doing this piece gave me a lot of education on this library. Since the song is so short, I've been thinking about doing another pass on it. Thanks for the tips.

William, the movie is called "Doubleback". It's a semi-short.....Sci-Fi, Time travel film....I don't know too much about it other than the main character who has access to time-travel somehow causes a paradox which the director is trying to imply causes black holes. Supposed to have a lot of CGI.... Heck, it got my interest! heh heh.

[evan evans]

yeha, it's VERy good. But I worry about it being "time consuming". be careful. make sure you can do what they ask in the time they ask you to do it in.

Basil Poledouris could outwrite John Williams given enough time. So could my mom come to think of it. ROFL. In teh words of a personal hero of mine:

"All it takes is time and pressure." - Andy Dufrain

Anyone know who that person is?

Evan Evans

[herb]

A main character of a Stephen King short story?
A prison/escape thing.
Don't know the english title.
If I'm right, it's the movie with Tim Robbins as Andy Dufrain.

best
Herb

[dunk187]

"The Shawshank Redemption" is what it's called around these parts. Yeah thats a great movie.

Yeah thats a good point Evans. That is definitly one of my flaws. I have to learn when to say when sometimes. I guess thats an art in itself huh?

Hey question for all... In your experiences, what can you do with the Pro Edition musically that you can't do with the First Edition. Oh and Herb, your Epic Horns sounds spectacular

[gugliel]

Sounds good! The second half with the heavy drum taking over as a central pulse kind of lost the playful ticking rhythmic counterpoint from the opening -- perhaps something might be done other than thumping in a steady rhythm, from about 1:05 on? Beethoven manages to be rhythmically inventive across a straight rhythm without losing the meter or the interest.

Evan's comment about time made me pause, perhaps because I'm becoming a Carl Ruggles, myself. Learning to cope with time-pressure might be desirable, but perhaps not more valuable than learning to perfect?

[magates]

is that sam trumpets?

[PaulR]

[quote=dunk187]Hi VSL community,

I look forward to hearing how you all used it! I'd love some feedback also. Thanks.

[/quote

Yes. Nice one. I think you've got the hang of it alright. The reverb though? It's nearly right, but slightly less maybe. I dunno. Could just be a taste thing on my part. Very good piece for a movie I would think and builds very well.

How many Performance patches did you use on this? And which ones if you don't mind me asking?

PR

[Rob Elliott]

@evanevans said:

yeha, it's VERy good. But I worry about it being "time consuming". be careful. make sure you can do what they ask in the time they ask you to do it in.

Basil Poledouris could outwrite John Williams given enough time. So could my mom come to think of it. ROFL. In teh words of a personal hero of mine:

"All it takes is time and pressure." - Andy Dufrain

Anyone know who that person is?

Evan Evans

Nice reminder Evan - It is sometimes hard to 'walk away' from some cues but there is only so much time.

Rob

[William]

Yes, if something isn't perfect, don't keep trying to make it perfect - move on and make the next one perfect.

An important working principle. Of course I've never paid the slightest attention to it.

[gugliel]

I was wondering if evan's mom was the same one who named him?

[dunk187]

Hi all,

Performance patches, lets see. That is where the portamento articualtions are right ?(forgive me I'm still new at this VSL). I used the

VA-10_PERF-LEGATO Portamento
VC-8_PERF-LEGATO Portamento
HO_PERF-REP_leg_4-90 <---- I think

Paul, magates, Everything else are single note samples/staccatos. The Trumpets used are from Reason 2.5 Orkester Sound Bank. Not bad huh? I used them because they were really gritty sounding. They fit the application so I tried em.

How are those Sam Trumpets....I'm thinking about getting them.

[PaulR]

Thanks for the information Dunk.

If you like this genre of music you are writing, you may wish to take a look at the VSL Horizon Series Epic Horns. I've just got them a few days ago, and they will blow you away. Really!

Regarding Sam Trumpets, Horns and Trombones - they are excellent, but these days it's a lot to do with having the facility of the Performance functions.

[dunk187]

Sure no problem.... Hey, Herbs not going to kill us just because we don't use ALL VSL samples is he?

[PaulR]

@dunk187 said:

Hey, Herbs not going to kill us just because we don't use ALL VSL samples is he?

Almost certainly! [[;)]]