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  • Competition getting stronger!!!

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    Seems like they're not asleep [[;)]]

    EASTWEST/QUANTUM LEAP SYMPHONIC ORCHESTRA PROFESSIONAL
    http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24699">http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24699

    EASTWEST/QUANTUM LEAP SYMPHONIC CHOIRS
    http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24698

    regards to VSL team,
    Abel
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    Which competition? [H]

    best
    Herb
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    hehe... elegant answer [H]
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    Well Herb, I know that's tongue in cheek, and as much as I appreciate the work you've put into this library, I still wish your violins could sound more realistic. IMO the competition have a clear edge. So how about some epic strings?
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    Hi Duoartc

    I've posted this yesterday in a different topic:


    For me the "Epic Violin sound" is a clever mix of large and small sections, and/or a solo instrument.

    And it dont have to be always the same articulation.
    Some examples:

    VI-14_mV_0sus layered with Soloviolin perfornance legato.
    for fast movements

    or
    Large string section performance legato - layered with small string section performane detaches
    for articulated legato performances

    or
    Large string section performance legato piano - layered with small string section performance portamento (with reduced volume)
    for a "piano portamento" effect.

    again, endless options.

    best
    Herb
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    @herb said:

    Which competition? [H]

    best
    Herb


    The competition is: will Symphonic Cube or QLSOP Pro be released first?
    I support VSL!
    ciao
    Sergino
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    @duoartc said:

    Well Herb, I know that's tongue in cheek, and as much as I appreciate the work you've put into this library, I still wish your violins could sound more realistic. IMO the competition have a clear edge. So how about some epic strings?
    That is weird, I don't think the qlso strings sound realistic at all. [:D] But I am all for Epic Strings, even though Herb seems to resist the idea for now. [;)]
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    while VSL is my favorite sampled orchestra I still like much of QLSO. However getting fast realistic violins from QLSO has been dicey at this point at best. VSL shines in this department.
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    I look forward to hearing EWQLSO Legato strings. I guess i'm hoping they will be more to my taste than the VSL ensemble ones. I would love to know if VSL could to a better job of sampling the ensemble today than they could back in the day, and if so - will they do it.

    As I have said countless times, Solo Strings just sound so superb, no sucking sound or anything. So I would love to see some of that magic in some new string recordings.
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    So EWQLSO is finally trying to catch up with a legato tool. Interesting - and rather late.

    Also, the sound of those strings is hardly superior. Different, but not superior. A very worthwhile endeavor, but the musical consistency of VSL is a definite advantage.
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    A assume any iteration of an EPIC STRINGS would be a string orchestra of 80+ players, ie: 34 Violins, etc., etc., 12 Double Basses...

    (Just in case Herb is listening)

    Evan Evans
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    Oh my god [[:|]]
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    mathis,

    Otherwise it wouldn't be EPIC! [:)]

    Evan Evans
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    It would probably sound like a sine wave.
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    Well.. the strings dont have to be epic. Just revisited.

    The reason I put a vote in for epic strings is that I feel chances of getting that are larger
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    actually, I think the biggest improvement for VSL would be a simpler way to find articulations. I have a lot of orchestral libraries and VIs, EWQLSO included, and VSL is by far the trickiest to find your way around.

    so a user-friendliness enhancement would keep VSL ahead IMHO

    just my two cents.

    Nigel
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    @herb said:

    Which competition? [H]

    best
    Herb


    The competition is: will Symphonic Cube or QLSOP Pro be released first?
    I support VSL!
    ciao
    Sergino

    Why not go for the better one? [:D]

    PolarBear
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    Re: epic strings

    I'm still looking for good reference as to what you mean with this sound, as also requested already here:
    http://community.vsl.co.at/viewtopic.php?t=3671&start=30

    Perhaps someone can give me a tip?
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    I still cannot understand how mixing chamber strings with section strings can lead to "epic strings" sound. Chamber or solo instrtuments always add more definition and detail, which is IMHO quite oposite to smooth, lush sound of large strings section (like 18+16 Vn.I+II). So for "epic sound" we actually need less detail and more magic (and I don't mean EQ[:)]

    Anyway, it's good to see emerging competition of giant orchestral libraries.
    Exciting race [:D]

    I wonder what Herb has in his sleev for Symphonic Cube?
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    Abel,

    Exactly what I said in a similar post. Chamber strings will not increase the size of the strings, only their intimateness.

    Evan Evans

    P.S. EWQLSO uses QLegato. Apparently it is not purely a gimick, but it's creator also goes on record saying it is not using intervallic recording like VSL, and cannot compare. But it is somethign advanced and impressive, SO SAYS NICK.