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  • Should IRs be used globally or on every track

    I've got Waves IR1 and now I used AUX to add the reverb effect for every track. One track has an AUX bus with an IR1 Instance. I don't know whether it's right.

  • Sorry to sound dimwitted - but could you please rephrase that question ...?

    [*-)]

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • I mean, Should the IR1 be used on every track(One mix track with one AUX Send and on every AUX Send there is an IR1 Instance to add reverb effects)or used globally(in master plugins)

  • Usually, you would load one IR-1 into a dedicated FX-bus (and maybe a second in another slot for different settings), which gets its input from an AUX-send of each intrument-channel. The dry/wet-ratio of the IR-1 has to be 100% in this scenario.

    Other people like their signals 100% "wet" when it comes to sampling-reverb like the IR-1. In this case, you would insert the plugin in the master-bus.

    HTH,

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Then how should the parameters of IR be adjusted? For example, controlling the RT60 for different freq (RT60 should be shorter for high freq and longer for low freq).Which parameters are the ones to modify the distance of IR?

    Thanks

    /YWT

  • Sorry - I'm no IR-1 user .... anyone?

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Hello YWT,

    No offense meant, but I get the impression you have bought a tool without a specific need for this tool, or to put it diffferently, your knowledge of mixing, mastering and production is not yet sufficient for using a tool like this.

    Don't worry, there are many ways to get your knowledge and toolkit "compatible" [[;)]]

    For specific question on using this tool, you can go to the Waves forum, at http://waves.org/6/ubb.x

    Furthermore, you need some resources (books, website articles, etc) on mixing (keywords: routing, busses, sends, insert, etc), ambience (keywords: ambience, plugin, reverb, delay, impulse, orchestral, etc) and read, read, read! There is so much information on the web! If you spent some time Googling and bookmarking interesting sites on the web, you will surely learn a lot in a very quick time. I guess a lot of us on this forum have done exactly that to learn about the backgrounds of mixing.

    Have you checked all IR1 documentation? The perception of distance can indeed be affected by changing high and low roll-offs, but also by the dry/wet ratio. Then you can also tweak pre-delay, etc... Also remember that the IR1 has a default latency of 11 msec, that is not reported to the host application... (weird "feature").

    For effective manipulation of perceived distance, you may want to check out the rather inexpensive Cakewalk FX3 Soundstage plugin, which can be used as an insert plugin on multiple channels.

    Regards,

    Peter

  • Thanks Peter.
    I have checked the PDFs but I can't be sure whether my operation is right.
    Still I have to learn more.
    I will try my best to get more knowledge.
    Thanks for your help!

    /YWT

  • Hi YWT,

    this magazine is worth subscribing, also, if you subscribe to e-sub, you can research articles over the past years.

    http://www.soundonsound.com/">http://www.soundonsound.com/

    The Gearslutz Forum is loaded with a wealth of interesting information from people who are in the business since quite a while.

    http://gearslutz.com/board/index.php3?s=

    Here a classic Link called the Recording FAQ

    http://www.phys.tue.nl/people/etimmerman/recordingfaq/RFAQ.html

    Electronic Musician Online

    http://industryclick.com/magazine.asp?siteid=15&magazineid=33

    Mix Magazine Online

    http://www.mixonline.com/

    Bob Katz's Homepage, Author of "Mastering Audio", highly recommendable book!

    http://www.digido.com/

    The Project Studio Handbook, very handy link to read up on pretty much anything.

    http://www.theprojectstudiohandbook.com/directory.htm

    The Recording Forum

    http://www.recording.org/modules.php?name=Forums


    It is just an excerpt from what is out there but should get you started I hope. [[;)]]

    As a generell rule of thumb, anything goes as long as it sounds good to your ears, this is the beauty and freedom you have in this domain, there are no rules whether you apply the IR1 on every single track ore on FX 1 and 2 or Master Bus only, it depends on what you want to achieve. I know this is not specifically helpfull, but true!

    Experiment a lot, soon you find your personal way around things and dig deeper.

    Peace
    ~^..^~
    Bear