Amazing,
I've been away a bit and come back to the forum to find a contention between Mr. Evans and several members of the forum? Shocking! How did it ever happen? Unprecedented! I believe it's called "par for the course" in golf. Actually, as has been pointed out, there are some great tips in this thread. I examined the HOLeg2p today as a result of someone wanting to sneak it past St. Peter or something of the sort.
I don't think I can add much to so many very thoughtful posts which pretty much covered everything. jbm sure brought an inciteful fresh perspective that applied beautifully I thought.
No doubt there's a line somewhere between collage and composition and no doubt the practitioner knows what side he's living on. If I need a string run I'll start by creating it myself so as to control as many elements contained in the run as possible. The motivation here is the best result. If I find a sampled run that puts mine to shame I'll probably use it. But that would be rare because of tempo, lack of nuance, and so on. Or, maybe get a few live players and record/sample them.
Ethics doesn't enter in to my thinking because I have no insecurities as to whether I'm leaning on any crutches. I'm looking for a string run in my composition and I'm going to try to find one in the same spirit as a band leader looking for good players (who can execute his ideas.) It's about the music sounding as good as possible. Not about whether I played it, Herb played it, or I got someone else to play it. I'm not going to use an inferior presentation of an original musical idea if there is a better alternative.
A collage artist takes multiple pre-existing fragments and organizes them in some way. That's a far cry from a beat or two of sixteenth notes in an original composition (where even those very notes are original but merely executed better than MIDI control.) I don't think we have a lot of collage artists on the forum.
I prefer to create my own runs for the most part because the results are usually far superior. I also love the cresc. dim. performances because they are genuine with subtleties not found always with layers and mod wheels.
It's a subject I will never lose a bit of sleep over (even though I just managed to put myself to sleep with this intolerably boring post of mine.)
Dave Connor
I've been away a bit and come back to the forum to find a contention between Mr. Evans and several members of the forum? Shocking! How did it ever happen? Unprecedented! I believe it's called "par for the course" in golf. Actually, as has been pointed out, there are some great tips in this thread. I examined the HOLeg2p today as a result of someone wanting to sneak it past St. Peter or something of the sort.
I don't think I can add much to so many very thoughtful posts which pretty much covered everything. jbm sure brought an inciteful fresh perspective that applied beautifully I thought.
No doubt there's a line somewhere between collage and composition and no doubt the practitioner knows what side he's living on. If I need a string run I'll start by creating it myself so as to control as many elements contained in the run as possible. The motivation here is the best result. If I find a sampled run that puts mine to shame I'll probably use it. But that would be rare because of tempo, lack of nuance, and so on. Or, maybe get a few live players and record/sample them.
Ethics doesn't enter in to my thinking because I have no insecurities as to whether I'm leaning on any crutches. I'm looking for a string run in my composition and I'm going to try to find one in the same spirit as a band leader looking for good players (who can execute his ideas.) It's about the music sounding as good as possible. Not about whether I played it, Herb played it, or I got someone else to play it. I'm not going to use an inferior presentation of an original musical idea if there is a better alternative.
A collage artist takes multiple pre-existing fragments and organizes them in some way. That's a far cry from a beat or two of sixteenth notes in an original composition (where even those very notes are original but merely executed better than MIDI control.) I don't think we have a lot of collage artists on the forum.
I prefer to create my own runs for the most part because the results are usually far superior. I also love the cresc. dim. performances because they are genuine with subtleties not found always with layers and mod wheels.
It's a subject I will never lose a bit of sleep over (even though I just managed to put myself to sleep with this intolerably boring post of mine.)
Dave Connor