@Audun Jemtland said:

Your song assisi, what choir library have you used? Have you tried Peter Siedlaczek's Classical Choir? Is it any good?

Happy hollydays
Audun Jemtland

Hello Audun,

On that older piece I only used SOV (Symphony of Voices from Spectrasonics) for the choirs, together with Advanced Orchestra strings and Ultimate String, some loops from Liquid Grooves and a DX7 synth. (I ran this with sequencer and GigaSampler96 on one PC. The soprano line was edited from 3 short phrases in SoundForge. You als hear some Gregorian lines, Boys Choir, BC phrases (Kyrie, way too often [;)] ) and several Mmm and moving vowel patches.

I am not familiar with Classical Choir, sorry. Last year I also bought Voices of the Apocalyps, which is a very good complement to SOV. It offers some word building support and has a more direct, in your face sound. SOV is mostly mellow (and VERY well recorded and edited).

Cheers,

Peter

drum sounds, bass sounds. What do you use? And I really do mean sounds(samples) NOT LOOPS! I hate loops. Everytime I look for SAMPLES it says: with these loops you can bla bla bla..... [:@]

Isn't that annoying!? [8o|]

Pardon me, this is probably a language issue, but I do not understand your reaction...

You ask me about what I used on a piece, and you start ranting about loops and "sounds"? Isn't that what this forum is about?

I really don't understand your post. Did I do something wrong? Something wrong with the rest of the world? You have a bad mood today?

Take care,

Peter

no you did nothing wrong and I'm not in a bad mood [:D]
I didn't mean it that way. But I was wondering what other samples you use that is non-orchestral for example(dan's upright bass or something like that)

you've had some experience with SOV, but have you had any experience with drums or bass samples that isn't loops.

When you compose you arrange a drum beat all by yourself(no loops)
After my opinion loops is something you add or start with your song if your schedule is a little tight....

People use loops all the time but I like to make ALL sounds that you hear using only samples, not loops.

Better explanation? [:D]

Yeah, it's ok of course.

Well, loops are often just long samples [;)]

The bass sound I used on this cue is from Will Lee (AKAI library converted to Giga). It is a simple basic Fender Precision sound, if I remember well (3 years ago). I recently also bought Scarbee's basses, which are considered by most people as the ultimate, super-realistic bass libraries. But I haven't used them yet, as I experiment mostly with orchestral music now.

A lot of percussion and drum libraries contain both single hits AND loops. So with libraries like Liquid Grooves, Burning Grooves and Back Beat (all from Spectrasonics), you can build a basic rhythm pattern using loops and add additional hits on cymbals, toms, etc. If you set the sequencer's tempo to the same tempo as the loop, you just have to hit one note per measure, for example.

Other loop libraries are more flexible, because they offer handy tricks to manipulate the tempo (like Groove Control, also a Spectrasonics trick).

Loop libraries can be real life and time savers, but if you don't like them (maybe too predictable or too "polished"), don't use them. I think building convincing drum and percussion parts from scratch, by programming all notes yourself can be A LOT of work!

Don't forget that also a lot of loop libraries have very nice processed sounds (for instance from band-width filters, resonance, etc) which can also be quite some work to create yourself.

Yeah it's a lot of work, but it's worth it after the song is done. When you have listened to your song and said: YEEEES!
I love those moments...
[:D]

@tattie said:

The MIR project is underway but it might be a little time before we see it. And I predict it will be quite a learning curve to be able to use it to great effect [...]
tattie

On the contrary: The whole idea behind the MIR-concept is to _get rid_ of the learning curve. The MIR will be much more than a "reverb engine": consider it a 3D-mixing frontend for the Vienna Symphonic Library. If things work out as we plan, you will be able to make absolutely convincing mixes without any "technical" considerations, both spatially and sonically.

... enough secrets broken ... ;-]

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library

Hello Dietz,
will MIR be "only" usful for the Vienna library, or as well as a reverb for other sample libraries? Or something in between?

something in between ... [;)]
sorry dietz, i couldn't resist
christian

I came here, right now.. to ask that very same question.. cool...

Can we get a clearer answer? and when will details about release and pricing be available? [:)]

@Christian Marcussen said:

[...] Can we get a clearer answer? [...]

Sorry Christian, but not yet. - We still believe that a first incarnation of the MIR will see the day of light later this year, though.

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library

PS: ---> http://community.vsl.co.at/viewtopic.php?t=1793

/Dietz