Man I love this company! [:D]
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For woodwind ensembles, we're mostly getting by with the older Miroslav or trying to set them up with solo instruments. What's needed are: flutes, clarinets, oboes.
PA
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But we plan to expand the articulations also for Jazz and Bigband use.
Herb,
Very cool! Are you planning to expand the articulation sets in the same way for the rest of the brass instruments as well?
/Mattias
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That's great and judging from what I've heard from the perf detache so far it will be a killer...! Ok, I wasn't specifying my question too well... The intention in my question was really biting attacks, stabs, shakes, rips and so on?
/Mattias
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Herb you've already surprised us with THAT list!!
Great to hear about the huge horns, and the saxaphones!!! (with performance tool legati it should be awesome).
Actually, its opened a floodgate in my tinking about the library in future.
Any chance way down the track or sooner, of ethnic instruments? The reason I ask is because the legato tool works so well, on legati and portamenti (eg the solo violin and ensemble violin port/legato are amazing).
This tool would be fantastic on whistle (think of fluid, haunting Irish melodies etc. Its used a lot in films). Yeah, thats what I'd like: whistle for legato performance, including portamento like you've done with the strings!
And, I can't wait for those horns!!!
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Symphonic Cube "I"
the number at the end is vitally important.
The whole concept is based on three big cubes and there are the following emphases:
1) The traditionell symphony orchestra,
the bigger part will be covered with Symphonic Cube I.
2) Choir
3) Modern and avantgarde playing techniques of orchestra instruments,
also the contemporary playing styles Matthias asked for.
4) Ethnic instruments
5) Historical instruments
The question is, what's is the main focus of "Symphonic" Cube II.
Will it be the "Choir & Ethnic Cube",
or the Historical & Modern Cube"
(also possible "choir & modern" or "historical & ethnic" etc.)?
best wishes
Herb
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Wow, Herb. Looks like I made the correct choice in purchasing your library (Peter Alexander is building me another computer with First Edition as we speak). I cannot wait to receive it!
Rob
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Wow, that answered my question...! Herb, you guys are truly insane!! [:D]
/Mattias
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@herb said:
The question is, what's is the main focus of "Symphonic" Cube II.
Will it be the "Choir & Ethnic Cube",
or the Historical & Modern Cube"
(also possible "choir & modern" or "historical & ethnic" etc.)?
Herb,
The "Choir & Ethnic Cube" will be of great usefulness to those of us who make our livings in film and television. The addition of choir and ethnic instruments will be an excellent and much used addition to the Symphonic Cube.
This is truly an exciting new set of tools! Thanks again to the great VSL team for creating and continuing to create them.
Jason
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While I am still learning to use just the first edition which is huge in its possibility all these additions are exciting, especially saxophones, which have absolutely no representation in classical sampling, historical instruments like Krummhorns, Schawms, etc., which are currently only very limited non-chromatic samples (like "Early Patches" which is good but too small) and especially choir.
I really like the VOTA, but it is lacking the same thing all other smple libraries prior to VSL have lacked: legato. This is absolutely crucial to choir and voice, even more than with strings, and if the Vienna guys do it they should go ape with the legato performances - multiple dynamics and variations between clean slurs and radical portamento, because as everyone knows that is what a live choir does every time - it's never the same exact tone and especially never reached in exactly the same way.
By the way I'm also looking forward to a fully chromatic, six-dynamic-level Bass Ophicleide with at least five different performance legati. If this happens, I will finally be able to get my 13 movement atonal Concerto for Ophicleide and Piccolo Ensemble performed.
William
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For Symphonic Cube 2 here are some early thoughts.
For vocals, we have VOTA, SOV, the new Miroslav (which I haven't heard) and the older Peter Seidlaczek material. As one user wrote, all of these (miroslav too?) lack the legato. However, one other critical feature is missing: independent sections for SATB.
Oddly enough, for the all the money invested in recording choirs, it appears that no one (as in not one) benchmarked the end results with performances of the Bach chorales as a standard. I'd even like to suggest testing the final material with pieces from Palestrina, Dufay and more modern pieces like Carmina Burana. If you can get choral samples to execute Bach chorales, THAT would be a major breakthrough.
I guess what I'm saying is that the voice hasn't been approached the same way instruments have.