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  • Pro Editon and Symphonic Cube questions

    Guten Tag,

    Will the newsletter list all of the additonal instruments and articulations for the Pro Editon?

    When will the divisi strings be released?

    What new instruments will we see for the Symphonic Cube?

    danke

  • Hello Esperlad,

    Parallel to our Pro edition release we are working on a relaunche of our site.
    One section will be a detailed articulation list of First and Pro Edition.

    We'll also offer a lot of new solo demos, where you can listen to all new playing styles and instruments.

    No divisi strings in the Pro.

    New instruments list:

    Piccolo flute
    Flute 1
    Alto flute
    English horn
    Bass clarinett
    Double bassoon

    Piccolo trumpet
    Bass trumpet
    Bass trombone
    Contrabass trombone
    Contrabass tuba
    Cimbasso
    Wagner tuba

    Solo violin
    Solo cello

    solo viola and solo bass are in recording now,
    they will be released as add on ASAP (for Pro Edition users to a very moderate price)

    lots of new percussion, I only list the major instruments,
    Celesta
    Vibraphone
    Marimbaphone
    Snare drum ensemble (4 players)

    you can find a more complete percussion list under Demos&Products/DVD Edition/Percussion/Pro Edition


    all string ensembles, brass ensembles, woodwinds and percussions of the first edition will be extended, many instruments will have more than the double content

    Symphonic Cube:
    Small string ensembles, double Horn, large Horn ensemble and many surprises [[;)]]

    best wishes
    Herb

  • Herb,

    snare ensemble and LARGE horn ensemble: sounds GREAT!!

    Also, just a thank you Herb for your availablity: whenever anybody posts on the forum you are always quick to respond. I am sure everyone really appreciates this very much!

  • Wow - thumbs up! Looks very promising. And I can only agree on what Robert said about you Herb - I am amazed that you find the time to respond to all these posts so thoroughly!

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    @herb said:

    Hello Esperlad,
    Snare drum ensemble (4 players)

    Herb,
    Are you recording separate right and left hands for the snares? How about different snare tightness? Rim shot?

    Craig Duke

  • Hi Herb,
    I noticed that you listed the "double horn" would be in the Symph Cube. I'm guessing that's the horn most of us our most familiar with in the states (the double F/Bb horn.) Does that mean the horn in the first edition is a Vienesse horn? I've been curious for a while. I really like it - it has so much personality and expression.

    What kind of double horn are you planning to sample? I'm partial to the large bore models myself, particularly the Conn 8D or "Constellation."

    It would be interesting to have a descant horn sampled some day too (pitched in high F.)

  • hi slaroussels,

    yes, the horn in the First Edition is a Viennese horn, that is a horn in F with a relatively small bore (see Instruments Online for further distinctive tonal and playing features of the Viennese horn).

    For the double horn in F/Bb that will be part of the Symphonic Cube we have not chosen the player and instrument so far.
    I personally have never listened to a horn in high f (although I know there is a triple horn in F/Bb/high f) - is this kind of horn played in the US?

    best wishes,
    sabine

  • original posted by Craig
    Are you recording separate right and left hands for the snares? How about different snare tightness? Rim shot?

    There are 4 different left and right hand samples with up to 6 velocity layers. Rim shots were recorded. Also variations without snarers (but no different snare tightness).

    best wishes
    Herb

  • What about the Bb trumpet? I remember Herb saying they were going to record one.

    Anthony Lombardi
    www.mp3.com/alombardi

  • I also remember mention of a normal oboe.

  • I had not heard about a Bb Trumpet, but I would like to see one sampled.

    I was thinking that the French/Conseritore Oboe would be released for the Symphonic Cube. Is this correct?

    The double horn is actually what we in the United States call the Horn in F? Once again, I could use another Horn of this type. I like the one that is currently avalible.

  • Thanks for the response Sabine. The double horn in low F/Bb is the standard horn played in US orchestras. For a good length of time, the Conn 8D was considered THE horn for US orchestras - it was all but required. Horn players will tell you that not all 8D are made the same. The oldest models made in Elkhardt Indiana are the ones most sought after. Today, Lawson and Paxman horns are commonly used as well in addition to the Conn.

    As for the horn in high F, it exists as part of a triple horn and by itself. The triple horn is not often used because it's so heavy, though. I heard the high F horn in a horn quintet recording. It was very interesting. At forte and above the sound took on the character of a trumpet, though a little richer.[/quote]

  • When will we see a list of the new instruments for the Symphonic Cube? The Pro Edition instruments have been up since the website was launched.