triplets with the repetion tool.

[mike harper]

going thru all of the tutorials and i am not getting the triplets.
i have tried various things but nothing seems to be working yet.

1. how do you play 8 th triplets at 170 bpm??
2. playing 8th note triplets, how do you deal with accellarandos - 150 - to 160?? how would you do this with 16th notes?
3. since the 1st edition has 4,8 and 16 notes. will there be 8th note triplets in the pro edition?
4. is the repetion the right tool for this? or should i be in the alteration tool
with the cube??

thanks
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[herb]

Hello Mike,

These are my repetition settings if I want to programm triplets
(using rep9 files)

for2x3 triplets + finalnote
1:1:0:1:1:1:0:1:1
or
1:0:1:1:1:0:1:1:1

for longer repetitions I tend to use as starting note a simple singlenote staccato or 0'3s note and combine it with the following repetition.

0:0:1:1:1:0:1:1:1
or
0:1:0:1:1:1:0:1:1

Most important to get triple feeling is the groove/timing and the accents.

Sometimes it's good to have longer notes for the accents, here I'm also combining single notes with the repetitions.

setup for the repetitions:
0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1:1

You could also select two repetitions out of the middle, but maybe you have to adjust the auto off time, to be short enough not triggering a third note.

Another solution for longer triple reps is again combining it with single notes and setup the tool this way:

0:1:1:1:1:1:1:1:1

The combinantion should be work like this

stac1 - rep2 - rep3 - stac - rep4 - rep5 -stac - rep6 - rep7 - stac - rep8 - rep9

If you use stac1+1 combination with the alternation tool, you have also more random effect on the accents.

I also would suggest, if you combine it with single notes, play your repetition phrase first only with single notes, an afterwards split it between
repetition track and single note track.

Of course the delay offset of the miditrack should be correct to work in right timing with the repetition track. Sometime it helps (for lousy keyboardplayers like me), to set this offset a little "Off" and so I get the right shuffle rhythm.

I hope this explanation was not to confuse, so if you have further questions...

best wishes
Herb

[NG1]

Thanks herb, I found that post very useful. I look forward to trying out those additional ways of using the rep tool.

[herb]

When I'm ready with the Pro Edition Gigamapping, I'll post some more
miditemplates.
You can really do very advanced programmings if you are crossing different repetition tracks.
I think, it will be much much easier to analyze a midifile than my academic wording here.

all the best
Herb

[KingIdiot]

herb = freak


thats why I like him [:)]

[Martin]

King, of course Herb is a freak, but it's funny that YOU say that, you freaking freak of freaksters!
Love, Martin

[mirabile]

Herb

How would you programe the repetition tool for the following pattern in 4/4

1st beat = quaver + rest

2nd beat=triplet quavers(3)

3rd beat = qrochet triplet+ quaver triplet

4th beat = triplet quavers(3)

The same pattern with all notes staccato.

Thanks for your help

Mirabile

[herb]

Mirabile, could you send me a jpg screenshot of the notation, please.
My english is not good enough, so I'm not sure what you mean with quaver and qrochet. The BPMs defenition would be also helpful.

send it to: office@vsl.co.at

thanks
Herb

[Craig Sharmat]

Hi Herb,

Actually my english isn't good enough either [[;)]]

I could be mistaken but those words look french.

As it looks like you are back, I hope you enjoyed your well earned vacation.

Craig

[mirabile]

Herb

I sent you an email on 10/8/03 (to office@vsl.co.at) with a word document containing the ostinato pattern and have not had a reply as yet.

Hope to hear from you soon.

Regards

Mirabile

[herb]

Thanks, I've received it.

Before responding I wanted to check it out.
Unfortunately my sequencer pc makes trouble the last days and I couldn't work. [8-)]
Hopefuly we can fix it the next days.

best wishes
Herb

[mirabile]

Herb

Thanks for your reply. I hope your PC is fixed soon.

Regards

Mirabile