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  • Prog. mod/dyn cres. using the leg string samples-WILL SHARE

    S
    S
    I'm going to program a patch using the legato p and legato f string samples with a dynamic crossfade on the mod wheel between the two. It seems that the f sample played at a soft velocity could mimick a mf sample. I need to mess with this, but will probaby create a 3rd layer with a softer volume f sample so the crossfade to the true f samples if seemless. For that matter I may create a 4th dimension layer with a softer volume p sample. I don't see why this won't work. Am I missing something?? Does the legato tool itself prevent this somehow. It doesn't seem to me that it does.

    Thanks,

    Colin
  • H
    H
    The legato tool is not the problem. The dimension count in gigastudio is the problem. There are only 16 stereo dimensions. The only solution at the moment is to blend in the sequenzer between two or more different miditracks.

    Herb
  • N
    N
    now that this comes into topic. How´s the correct way to do that (blend with two different midi tracks). What I usually do is just copy the track and apply different channels (i.e sounds) to each one an then delete the notes that I don´t want on each channel. Is this how everybody is doing it?
  • H
    H
    This two miditrack solution was suggested by King Idiot "the great".

    Maybe he could share his thoughts?
  • M
    M
    Here is what I think I would do... Correct me if I am wrong...

    I think you can have two exact copies of the same track, and adjust the volume or expression on both tracks so that the sum of the two is always the same. For example, for a crescendo, you start with a value of 100 for the p layer, and 0 for the f layer. And gradually you increase the f layer while decreasing the p layer... In the end, you have 0 for the p layer and 100 for the f layer.

    Of course you don't have to do this in a linear way...
  • K
    K
    Ok...

    I worked out a way to Xfade between two dynamics of legato samples with port layering. It works really well for the strings.

    I dont want to share them just yet because I have a few ideas on how to do more than two dynamics. It might be with Jeff's Marble Tools, I jsut have to test it and the performance tool. To see if it will work.

    Also when giga 3.0 releases this wont be an issue at all I'm sure. Gimme a few days
  • R
    R
    Hi,

    I did this trick within the environment-layer of Logic-Audio as an extention of my "Virtual Maestro Tools" engine:

    I am able now to mimick a multi-layer-crossfade-patch with the VSL-Legatos using CC11, note-velocity remapping and optionally CC-LP-filtering triggering the p-legatos on MIDI-Ch. "n" and the f-legatos on MIDI-channel "n+1". The advantage is, that I can use the Perf. Tool "as is", since both Legato-patches are getting triggered on the same port.

    This works very well with all VS-standard legato-patches right out of the box. Just load the both dynamic-layers into succeeding MIDI-channels and handle the MW just like you would do it for EXP-patches. You have to vary the velocity-split-threshold (user-definable) a little from instrument to instrument. The only problem is, that legato-connections between both dynamic layers do not work, since the Perf.-Tool currently can't "link" the two MIDI-channels. To overcome this limitation, I started to simulate the Legato-processing within Logic itself. There was even no need to set up the Perf.-Tool properly then. You were recording finally processed lines then.

    Pro: you are not stuck with a single port for the legato-patches.

    Contra: Editing those final lines with keyswitches etc. is a little awkward.

    Regards


    Roman