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  • Bouncing to 24/48 question BOIOIOING!

    If I bounce at 16/44.1 and later convert that wave to 24/48, will that be the same thing as if I bounced directly from my arrange to 24/48 in terms of quality?

  • i'd say this depends on a) the audio engine bouncing the 44.1/16 and b) the quality of your converter.
    basically and since within the audio engine everything is 32 float i'd assume bouncing directly 24/48 gives better results. i'd also double check against bouncing 24/44,1 and then converting to 48
    christian

    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
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    @cm said:

    i'd also double check against bouncing 24/44,1 and then converting to 48
    christian


    Thanks cm.

    What do you mean, could that be bad?

    The thing is, I have to give 23 pieces with all the stripes, these pieces were done at a time when my setting was at 44.1 KHz, and it has all been already bounced at that setting, it's all in wave format now. but now I'm asked to give them at 48KHz, it's not thinkable to go back to the arrange and bounce it all over again at 48KHz, that would take me a trillion years.

    Is there some advice you could give me?

  • so in fact you don't have the choice ... just use the best converter you have, this might actually be an audio application ... dietz proably would give you a better advice if he reads this ...
    i understood this to be an arrangement (with 44,1/16 samples) to bounce.
    christian

    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • I would stay anyway with 44k1 and convert the mix, since the samples are produced in 44k1. Use a really good tool, please. I hear that Barbabatch does a good work on sample rate conversion. I'm on Windows so I don't know the tools for Mac.

    The reason why I go this way is that realtime sample rate conversion for a sampler has to be CPU efficient, which means not best quality.

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    @Guy said:

    If I bounce at 16/44.1 and later convert that wave to 24/48, will that be the same thing as if I bounced directly from my arrange to 24/48 in terms of quality?

    In short: No.

    Stay at the highest possible sampling rate and bith depth during production and convert the final mixdown to the desired format using a high-quality (offline) sample rate converter and a good dithering algorithm.

    Upsampling from 44.1 to 48 should introduce less problems than downsampling, BTW.

    HTH,

    /Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
  • Dietz, what actually are you saying? (not really clear for me) You would produce at 48K?

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    @Guy said:

    If I bounce at 16/44.1 and later convert that wave to 24/48, will that be the same thing as if I bounced directly from my arrange to 24/48 in terms of quality?

    In short: No.

    Stay at the highest possible sampling rate and bith depth during production and convert the final mixdown to the desired format using a high-quality (offline) sample rate converter and a good dithering algorithm.

    Upsampling from 44.1 to 48 should introduce less problems than downsampling, BTW.

    HTH,

    So Dietz, is what you're saying, I should leave it at 44.1 KHz, give it like that and tell them (if they decide to use the original stripes at 44.1)if they want it at 48 KHz to use a high quality sample rate converter for the final mixdown? oK, that's one possibility.

    And if I use a high quality converter right away as Mathis suggests, (I assume what's in Logic is not high quality?) Can someone please give me a link to a high quality converter? I wouldn't know where to start with that....

    Thanks!

  • A good converter that can do batch processing would be ideal for all these stripes....

  • Ah, I'll convert it with logic, seems good enough for a lot of people so I hear.