It would appear that Logic on the current Mac platform is the first app to sucessfully crack the RAM limits that affect a high proportion of us VSL users. Who'll be second in the race!!
Julian
Julian
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Apple and Logic get there first?
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Wow - can you elaborate at all Julian?
I thought RAM limits per application required a new operating system, are you saying Logic has found a way around this?
Presumably it doesn't affect VSL (Vienna Instrument) users, because the VI uses it's own virtual server, which I guess will still be subject to the same RAM limitations we've had up to now.
Would be great to have some more information.
Jules
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@julian said:
It would appear that Logic on the current Mac platform is the first app to sucessfully crack the RAM limits that affect a high proportion of us VSL users. Who'll be second in the race!!
Julian
uh, Sonar "cracked" that a while ago with Sonar 5 as far as I can tell. 128 gigs of RAM to be specific.
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Yes by combining Vienna Instruments and Pro Edition you can now have orchestrations using a level of single machine RAM availability not available on any other platform and as the Pro Edition in a lot of instances interfaces seemlessly with Vienna Instruments I would say it's a big bonus rather than a proliferation of grey boxes all around your studio!!
Julian
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So it only works when you use Pro Edition as well. I haven't used that for 20 months, and have no intention of taking a backwards step after all this time.
FWIW I have no grey boxes round my studio, as I run all my samples over a network, and the machine room is elsewhere.
Hmmmmmm. I'll wait for a 64bit VI player I think.
DG
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Here is a a quote from a person who calls him or herself "21th Century" on a thread in Apple's Logic Studio forum (at
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1128602&tstart=0I have performed some tests within the last hours with Logic Pro 8 on my shiny new 8-Core with 16GB RAM.
I was creating a project with a huge amount of EXS24 instances. Result (I will not go too much in to deep here): There was no RAM restriction anymore, I was using 13GB of RAM for Logic Pro 8 and all used EXS24.
The question remains, is this true?
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uh, Sonar "cracked" that a while ago with Sonar 5 as far as I can tell. 128 gigs of RAM to be specific
Sonar absolutely did not provide 128GB of RAM access to any sampler. Everyone would have been using Sonar all along if that were the case.
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I'm not qualified to answer this though it appears 3rd party plug-ins now have the potential to expand their addressable RAM when used within Logic. I wonder if this is commercially viable or technically achievable for Vienna Instruments.
The advantages are clear - the true potential of our current computers is realised without having to wait for the complete 64 bit set up with the software and hardware issues that this will surely bring.
I know Apple have bigger fish to fry than us audio professionals but I am surprised there hasn't been more trumpetting over this advance. It would also be cool to hear more audio software designers reaction to confirm it's not a figment of the imagination!
Julian
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@julian said:
It would also be cool to hear more audio software designers reaction to confirm it's not a figment of the imagination!
Julian
Probably not enough users have taken advantage of Logic 8 just yet. A lot of Logic users on the other hand that have L8 thus far, probably don't care so much for the larger orchestral samples that guys like us do, ergo, they haven't tried to load in large templates.
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Would be good to hear from the VSL dev's if they have any plans to exploit this opportunity, or if they perhaps have something of their own up their sleeve. Presumably the VSL server application would need to be recoded as a 64-bit executable in order for this to work, but that would represent a huge step forward IMO.
Jules
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