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  • usb hubs and syncrosoft?

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    Looks like I'm gonna need a USB hub, unless I can find somewhere to buy the header attachments for my intel mobo...need more jacks.

    Anyway, are there any known issues with hubs and the syncrosoft key? As long as it's a bus powered 2.0 hub, is there anything i should look for or avoid?

    thanks.
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    It doesn't have to be bus-powered or USB 2 for Syncrosoft, but both of those are good things for USB hubs. I've had issues with Syncrosoft dongles (although not with VSL), but whether or not they're on a hub has had no effect.
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    @Another User said:

    It doesn't have to be bus-powered or USB 2 for Syncrosoft
    so far this is correct, but ...
    if you run out of plugs this means there are other devices connected and you should be careful regarding the respective need of power and bandwidth (the dongle is sometimes sensible to instable currency)

    a common design is tho have several USB controller hubs on board, each of them connected to 2 plugs, 1 or 2 of the controller hubs are often only connected to the *headers* (intended to be connected to internal devices like card-readers, ect), so getting the the brackets to lead them to accessible connectors might be a good idea anyway ...

    as already mentioned earlier: IMO the whole USB protocol is crap and unfortunately many USB hubs are too ... the often claimed upward and downward compatibility (USB 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, 2.1) is often just theory and a single misbehaving device can screw up the whole bus.
    have an eye on USB *live* devices like webcams, tv- and sound-adapters, as well as passive devices in general ...
    christian
    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
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    So...am I hearing make sure I don't put the SS key on a hub?

    Also--anyone know where I can get the actual motherboard connectors for my intel mobo? I went to intel's site--they seemed to imply it would take "any front panel USB that uses the standard pin out"...but, then I didn't find anything on Newegg, save cases that had them built in...like I said--my mobo has more headers for the front panel--that couple of plugs may be enough to forego the hub...
  • cmC
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    cmC
    if you have USB 2 and a usable hub (recommended powered) and no other critical (as describes above) devices - connect it.

    what often, if not mostly, does not work is eg. having the key attached to a mac keyboard (obviously too low voltage) or on a USB 2 hub connected to a USB 1 port (and any of both not following the specification), using it on any hub providing not enough voltage for the connected devices, having some strange device on the hub (screwing up the protocol), ect

    you should get brackets with USB connectors in every good computer store ... the standard is old enough meanwhile ...
    christian
    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
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    I'm using a powered USB2 hub (Belkin?) with Synchrosoft dongle and it works fine. Heck, with all of the dongles I have I needed a 7-port hub just for the dongles! Let's see, Synchrosoft, iLok, Logic, Aladdin (for Peak), I must be forgetting a few... [*-)]
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    cm, you'd have a fit if you saw the USB jungle in my garage (where the machines are) and my room. [:)]

    Does anyone know of a 16-port USB 2 hub, by the way? I once found one on the internet, but it didn't have a price and nobody seemed to be selling it.
  • cmC
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    cmC
    if it works - don't touch it [;)]
    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
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    @synthetic said:

    I'm using a powered USB2 hub (Belkin?) with Synchrosoft dongle and it works fine. Heck, with all of the dongles I have I needed a 7-port hub just for the dongles! Let's see, Synchrosoft, iLok, Logic, Aladdin (for Peak), I must be forgetting a few... [*-)]


    I have my dongle plugged into my Dell USB keyboard (which has a 2-port hub built in), and haven't had a problem with it.

    I've also had it work fine when plugged into Dell LCDs (I always buy the ones with built-in 4-port hubs), except for one slight problem -- when the screen-saver kicked in, and put the display into power-saving mode, it killed power to the dongle; Cubase didn't like this, and I suspect VIs wouldn't either.

    (This is also the reason that USB keyboards and mice can have problems with display-based hubs, since they may not be able to wake up the PC again once the display turns itself off.)
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    If there was a Hubzilla for USB, that would be perfect for dongles.

    http://www.duncanmackenzie.net/blog/Hubzilla/
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    Well, this is the only place I could find that sells it:

    http://www.dynamism.com/usb-hub/pricing.shtml

    Century CHMP-16 16-port USB 2 hub

    They may not really have it, of course.
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    They sell another item for the more playful-minded, though - a companion for Hubzilla:
    http://www.dynamism.com/usb-engine-hub/main.shtml">http://www.dynamism.com/usb-engine-hub/main.shtml

    Cheers,
    d.