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  • Understanding how Cubase and VSL work together

    Hallo Forum,

    If there were an award for the VSL forum member with the lowest knowledge level of the world of sampling, I surely would get first prize.

    With that admission I have the following 3 questions:

    (1) I have Vienna SE and use it exclusively as a plug-in with Cubase Studio. After I build my own matrixes, edit cells, establish key switches, etc, and simply save my compositions in Cubase (without having saved these VSL settings within VSL), Cubase seems to know when reloading the song exactly what settings to "call-up" in VSL (matrixes, key switches, etc.) Question I have is, how is the technically done...ie does Cubase save the VSL settings within Cubase?

    (2) As far as I can tell, one can only load 2 instruments within a single matrix cell. Yet the preloaded VSL SE matrixes at time have 3 or 4 instruments (violin, Cello, Double bass, etc). This I don't understand.

    (3) How does one record certain VSL functionality such as "on the fly" Xfading, sustain, volume, etc. The manual refers to Midi learn functionality but assume one knows (1) what this is and (2) how to use it. I realize this a very basic midi questions. I am hoping there is a way during playback to "tinker" with the functionality mentioned above and have these "tinkerings" saved for future playback.

    Thanks and greeting from Munich.

    Jeff

  • Hi Jeff.

    >If there were an award for the VSL forum member with the lowest knowledge level of the world of sampling, I surely would get first prize.

    I'm no expert myself, but I think the answer to your questions may be:

    (1) Yes, Cubase (and other sequencers) remember the Vienna Instrument (and other virtual instrument) settings so that when you re-load your song all the sounds are there ready to go.

    (2) Open a Vienna Instrument, select 'Patch Assign' and underneath the two cell slots on the left you'll see a single box marked '1A'. Grab the bottom right hand edge of the the box and drag it to the right and it will turn into multiple boxes arranged in a horizontal row. Drag the bottom edge of this row down and further rows will be created underneath the top one. Each box can contain up to four patches (the 'P Cell' switch lets you layer two extra patches on top of the regular two). You can change patches within a horizontal row (1A / 2A / 3A etc.) and also within a vertical column (1A / 1B / 1C etc.) using the 'H-Span' and V-Span' windows in 'Control Edit'.

    (3) Select 'Perform' and you'll see a list of these functions on the upper right hand side. To vary (say) the Master Attack, click on 'None' to the left of Master Attack and then select a controller in the 'Source' menu - say Pitch Wheel. You can now use the pitch wheel to vary the master attack in real time - just run the song, record the pitch wheel movements into Cubase and edit them later if necessary.

    Hope that helps. No doubt the 'real guys' will correct anything I got wrong!

  • Thanks Conquer,

    Life is easy when either (1) you know the answer or in my case (2) you access to nice, and knowledgeable people....like yourself. I never saw the "P" button...makes sense now, and thanks again

    Jeff

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  • Hi Jeff
    Perhaps you can get some more tricks and tips here
    You are welcome!

    http://www.beat-kaufmann.com/vitutorials/index.html

    This one is about "how to play a simple song"
    http://www.beat-kaufmann.com/vitutorials/vimidi/index.php

    All the best
    Beat

    - Tips & Tricks while using Samples of VSL.. see at: https://www.beat-kaufmann.com/vitutorials/ - Tutorial "Mixing an Orchestra": https://www.beat-kaufmann.com/mixing-an-orchestra/