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  • Running a VI on a GigaPC

    P
    P
    So, I've got the Chamber Strings for Giga. I think I can load enough to handle their use...but, with Giga fully loaded, my 1.5GB of RAM has like 600mb completely untouched. I never got the 1.1GB loaded. Just about 650mb+a few hundred for the OS.

    I would love to add the solo strings to my collection, but I would have to use Giga in two passes--one for the Chamber section, and another for the solo strings. So, it occurs to me--could I run the user more VI at the same time, assing it the second MIDI port and have it use the rest of my RAM? Or would it be like a lot of other user level apps--not linking to run alongside Gigastudio 2.5?

    Thanks.
  • C
    C
    I don't know whether you'd be able to run a standalone Vienna Instrument alongside GigaStudio 2 under Windows. I doubt it, since attempting to run a VI alongside Giga 3 on my PC (Win XP Pro) doesn't work.

    Even if you could, you'd have a MIDI problem: the Vienna Instrument is set to MIDI omni mode, which means it plays all MIDI channels simultaneously, so you'd effectively be limited to one VI on your second MIDI port.

    If you're set on using the VI (which offers some serious advantages over Giga), you might want to consider running it and GVI (Giga Virtual Instrument, which has one port and 16 MIDI channels) under a VST host. (I use Brainspawn's Forte, other have recommended Plogue Bidule.) That way you could continue to use your old Giga libraries alongside the newer VI collections.
  • D
    D
    It is possible, and it does work; badly, in my experience. You need to run a VST host alongside GS and load the VI into this. I found that I had to undo all the GS "tweaks", so my loading on GS was less although I could use some of the other RAM in VI. I also found that I was getting pops and clicks, although this could have been due to GVA. GVI is a possibility instead of GS, but this may cause you problems with the Performance Tool, and I believe using it in this way is a big convoluted.

    DG
  • cmC
    VSL Team
    cmC
    Conquer, if VI doesn't run side by side on your GS3 machine, it is highly probable you tweaked the machine to get as much as possible out of giga. Vienna Instruments are already happy with a default XP and don't like some of the giga tweaks.
    of course you could run a VST host with several VI instances besides giga, you might even win in such a configuration because giga is using the kernel space and VI the user space of memory, so you could load samples into this computer until it bursts.
    christian
    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • C
    C
    Thanks for your thoughts DG and CM. I didn't do any tweaks to my PC, although I have kicked it once or twice. I used to be able to run Giga 2.5 alongside other virtual instruments under Win 98, but that mysteriously stopped when I upgraded to Giga 3 and Win XP. I never found out why, but not to worry, I'm past that now!

    >of course you could run a VST host with several VI instances besides giga

    Yes, I'm doing exactly that with Forte. As I mentioned in another thread not long ago, I recently used the Performance Tool with GVI because I needed to use VSL's 'Overdrive' library, not yet issued as a VI. This involved downloading Maple's Virtual Midi Cable freeware (a MIDI driver that runs behind the scenes) to make it work - it's a bit of a lash-up but it worked fine.

    Anyway, I hope Popmann finds some of this useful. It's worth adding that using multiple VI's requires a lot of RAM, but the RAM consumption can be drastically reduced when you use the VI's 'learn' and 'optimize' functions to discard all the samples not used in your arrangement.