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  • VST Host With Simulated MIDI Inputs?

    P
    P
    For those of us who use notation software, seems to me a lot of our porblems would be solved if there was a VST player that didn't require a MIDI yoke, i.e., actually exposed MIDI ports like Gigastudio does. Then I'd have Finale, etc., interface directly to that. Anything like that?

    Why don't I want to use a MIDI yoke? Cakewalk and ACID, the only two I've used, have very poor MIDI through monitoring. The latency is terrible. Forte, etc., are pretty buggy (I cannot believe I spent money on that). I need something that is DESIGNED to do what I want, not just hacked.
  • P
    P
    Does everyone understand what I'm asking?

    When you open Gigastudio, 4 MIDI ports are exposed and other applications access them directly. No need for yokes, etc., and the MIDI-based latency is non-existent.

    Other programs require yoke and MIDI thru input monitoring which slows things down, causes errors, etc.

    Are there any VST hosts like Gigastudio that expose MIDI ports?
  • N
    N
    I don't understand, Peter. What do you mean by "exposed?"
  • cmC
    VSL Team
    cmC
    as far as i understood the request, peter refers to the gigaports (formerly nemesys ports) which *expose themselves* like a virtual midi device.

    i have to admit i don't know if any VST host offers such an option, but probably it doesn't exist because a VST host is rather intended to be connected to *something* using VST and not midi ...
    marble ports and MoL are offering virtual midi cables (*a midi yoke*) with IMO almost no latency, so i wouldn't look at it as *a hack*

    christian
    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • C
    C
    Peter, maybe what you're looking for would be a VSL product with multiple MIDI in and out ports (along the lines of GigaStudio) which lets you run multiple VI's on different MIDI channels? That would do away with the need for a VST host. Apologies if I misunderstood your point, but I think that would be a good idea. Don't think VSL are going to do it though!
  • P
    P
    Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about.

    The latency doesn't come from the virtual MIDI cables. The latency comes from the fact that the software hosts (Cakewalk, Acid, etc.) are not really designed to monitor 64 MIDI channels of MIDI through and play them back properly. Like I said, there's either huge latency (Cakewalk) or errors (Acid). Forte is the best so far, but definitely not perfect. I feel like a host that allowed the user to assign a VST to each MIDI channel, and caused other programs to directly "see" MIDI ports, w/o the need for a MIDI yoke, would be ideal. And yes, VSL should make something like that. They're in a better position to develop something like that efficiently and without the need for a VST host. It would really make life for notation sofware users much more tolerable. I continue to be sorely disappointed in the options available to me with VI right now - it's basically sequencers, or else a mix of poor "hack" options like yokes, etc.