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  • Symphonic Cube RAM

    In the system requirments for the symphonic cube, it says, "1 GB RAM (2 GB recommended)". I thought that you would need much, MUCH more than that, and I thought that you often even needed more than one computer for it. If this is true, than I could run the whole thing on my macbook pro using external hard drives. Could someone clear this up for me? Thanks.

  • That requirement is per product if I'm not mistaken. Remember there are 10 products now in the cube. It's not just one monolith. So any specifications are per product.

  • So the reccomended RAM for the whole thing is 20 gigs? Ouch. OK, I see the two computer thing now. Thanks

  • The answer is in the word "requirement." To run VI and get even modest usage, you need 1 GB. 2GB is more feasible, 3 is to be preferred, and 4 even better.

    Computer farms are usually the product of expediency. "I need these sounds live, under my fingertips, all the time with a minimum of loading." There is a direct correlation between the deadlines we face and the amount of computers we are running.

    Given the patience, one may coax sprawling symphonies out of even the laptop you describe, if you are willing to record, unload, and reload. You can bounce, freeze, thin out the RAM per instrument, etc. Though it would be tedious in the extreme, it could be done.

    But for many here, that is not a real-world option. So VSL declares a 1 GB "requirement" to help get the new users' foot in the door. In short order, it will be clear to the user why more RAM and computers are to be desired, if not required.

    I work with one lower powered Mac. But it takes me far longer to get the job done.

  • OK, I see. So I assume you connect multiple computers via ethernet?

  • There are accomplished networkers here and I'm not one of them. But for the record, there are other options besides Ethernet. Strictly speaking, all the slave computers need is MIDI (and their own sound card capable of an analog audio out), and all the main computer needs is a way to send the MIDI and receive the slaves' analog audio. So the most modest farm would have a multi-MIDI port box like the Unitor 8, and some fundamental mixer to get the audio back into the DAW for final recording.

    Between this Neanderthal arrangement and high-end farms, there are numerous options. You might look into Virtual Instruments magazine for an on-going discussion of farms, and you can also search Jerome's several posts here on a network of MacMinis. The choices are many, and debate is common.

    If you're new to VI, nothing is better than just buying it, see what you can do with one computer, and take it from there. Personally, I read this stuff all day, but it never really makes much sense until I own it and start using it.

  • I wont be upgrading to more than one computer for some time (with the exception of an unforseen MAJOR budget increase), but was just curious. I am SOOOO happy with the VSE I got, and I know I can spend a lot of time using just the articulations I have with that. As I have the budget, I plan to upgrade, probably starting with orchestra strings one and two, and build my way to the cube. But I will only move to multiple computers when I really have the need.

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    @ColinThomson said:

    OK, I see. So I assume you connect multiple computers via ethernet?

    As an experienced "networker" the answer is on PC yes, on Mac partially.

    DG

  • Can I have my MacBook Pro running Logic Pro 7, and connect it to PCs through ethernet, since PCs are cheaper? Could you point me to other threads, since I am sure this has already been discussed. Thanks.

  • Here are a couple threads talking about VI farms:

    http://community.vsl.co.at/viewtopic.php?t=10779&iframe=true
    http://community.vsl.co.at/viewtopic.php?t=9302&highlight=&iframe=true

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    @ColinThomson said:

    Can I have my MacBook Pro running Logic Pro 7, and connect it to PCs through ethernet, since PCs are cheaper? Could you point me to other threads, since I am sure this has already been discussed. Thanks.

    Yes, you can connect MIDI via network to either PCs or Macs using MOL (MidiOverLan). However, there is no stable way of returning the audio over the network to your Mac. Wormhole seems to be the only option, but there are many reports of it sort of working with a 2 computer set-up, but not with any more and I believe that there will be no further development on this product.

    DG