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  • Lining up VSL recordings of different instruments

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    V
    Hi all,

    This is probably an easy question, but how do you get the recorded wave files that Gigastudio plays to line up exactly? I've reached the limit in the number of instruments I can play at once due to ram (and the fact that I switch between 8-10 articulations per instrument, which all have to be open in Gigastudio.

    If everyone began playing at the beginning, I guess it might be easy to line up the first sounds, but most instruments begin at different points in the score. How on earth do you manage the audio files when they are all different lenghts and get them to line up?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

    -Valerie
  • F
    F
    Hi Valerie (I´m a Mac user - not a Gigastudio expert)
    Try to record them from the same starting position. (maybe the first bar?)
  • cmC
    VSL Team
    cmC
    just an idea ...
    create a track containing only *sync-clicks* and add a click on the same position to the track starting later in the timeline. after importing the wave files into cubase (or whatever) you can move back/forth these tracks until they correlate with your *sync-track* - finally you mute the clicks
    christian
    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • P
    P
    I would suggest maybe using a VST sampler like Halion, which will import giga format perfectly. This would allow you to operate inside the VST environment which will do all you want for you.
    You can then use tools like www.fxteleport.com to distribute out multiple instances of Halion across different machines...
    Having to export from GS, to be honest, is a very passe solution.
    Hope helps?
    Regards
    Richard
  • J
    J
    Hmm, all the above solutions are needlessly complicated, no? Just have your sequencer send out midi clock data, and in Giga enable the synchronize to start/stop data button when recording.
  • P
    P
    More expensive approach, but absolute very very easy to work with:
    Sampler(s) and sequencers on different PC's, and return the sampler outputs back to the sequencer via Adat. You can capture (record) the audio tracks entirely in sync with the midi tracks. The short latency is typically not a problem, I think my audio tracks have some 10 msec delay with the midi tracks.
    When I started out with sequencing and GigaSampler I also worked with the capture option from GS, which was a real pain in the a$$. This approach is a lot more expensive (I use a bunch of RME audio cards linked with 3 Adat cable sets), but so much handier. Of course, if you work with a notation program, this approach will probably not work.
  • V
    V
    Thank you for all the suggestions. Because I'm using Finale, I suppose I can't go the VST route. I also don't think Finale can send midi clock data... Adding woodblock clicks on every beat for instruments that don't start immediately sounds like a viable solution at the moment. I'll try that out.

    I suppose I could instead insert one measure of clicks at the beginning of the score before anything comes in... actually that sounds really easy.. Then I can line up the four clicks for each recorded file and delete them after all the audio is aligned. Thanks again for the ideas!

    -Valerie
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    S
    I have used with no pain GIGAstudio with cibase, cool edit and sonar, but with Finale I can't get the tracks properly in time. So I suggest this. Make a midifile of all your finale tracks and use a sequencer instead of Finale.
    ciao
    Sergino
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    @Jean said:

    Hmm, all the above solutions are needlessly complicated, no? Just have your sequencer send out midi clock data, and in Giga enable the synchronize to start/stop data button when recording.

    This is how I do it as well (thought everyone did it this way). With Sonar, you set Project->Options->MidiOut to Transmit Midi Start ... Then start your sequencer at the beginning and GS start recording at the first tick. Now Solo the set of tracks you choose to render, set your sequencer to time zero, press play. Do this for each set of track you wish to render at. As a result of the sequencer starting GS at the same time, each rendered set will be in sync. With this simple method, no tracks need be "lined up" but only imported into your audio SW starting at time zero.
  • E
    E
    I use Finale and Giga on a regular basis. I have been able to record different takes, and then render them all together using Vegas LE. The idea of making some sort of 'click' at the beginning of each section works very well.