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  • Internship in Los Angeles

    HOURS:
    Night Job (6pm+, flexible, we'll work around busy schedules)
    2-7 days a week (3+ and/or weekends preferred)
    
    DUTIES: 
    Dependent on experience and capabilities, could include:
         Orchestral Recording Sessions
              Music preparation
                   Scores, Parts, Prelays, Media, Proofreading
              Studio Recording
                   Additional Score Supervision (ie: Listening for mistakes)
                   Music Librarian / Manuscript Coordinator
                   Conducting
              Post
                   Cataloging of takes
                   Preperation for Music Editing
                   Rough Preview Mixing (Pro Tools, etc)
         Possible Ghostwriting
         Software (Macintosh)
               Finale
               Sibelius
               Pro Tools
               Logic
               Internet (GoLive, iWeb)
         Pre-Composition
               Attending Spotting Sessions (Taking notes, etc)
               Preparing Templates (Sounds, Manuscript, etc)
               Creating Timing Notes (Hit points, markers)
         Office
               Business Software (Word, Excel, etc)
               Email Marketing
               Research
    
    People find you energetic, an organizer, a perfectionist / detail-oriented,
    having excellent communication skills, even-tempered, ambitious, creative,
    talented, gifted, intelligent, sharp / quick, functions under pressure.
    
    COMPENSATION:
    Unpaid internship.
    
    MUST BE WITHIN COMMUTING DISTANCE OF THE WEST VALLEY AREA AND READY TO BEGIN IMMEDIATELY.
    
    EMAIL RESUME IN PDF FORM TO magates at gmail dot com
    

  • Sounds like child abuse to me. [:@]

    DG


  • I see it as an opportunity as I am sure do many others. I guess we just have different perspectives.

  • I got to tell you Matt I just this day started working on orchestrations for approximately 16 minutes of orchestral music to be recorded in America after a very long lay off from music. When I read your advert I just had to laugh. I thought you'd posted it as a joke - not realizing it was serious.

  • Seems to me if you're that qualified you could surely find work elsewhere that pays money. As for me I don't think I'll ever be that qualified....

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    @magates said:

    HOURS:
    Night Job (6pm+, flexible, we'll work around busy schedules)
    2-7 days a week (3+ and/or weekends preferred)
    
    DUTIES: 
    Dependent on experience and capabilities, could include:
         Orchestral Recording Sessions
              Music preparation
                   Scores, Parts, Prelays, Media, Proofreading
              Studio Recording
                   Additional Score Supervision (ie: Listening for mistakes)
                   Music Librarian / Manuscript Coordinator
                   Conducting
              Post
                   Cataloging of takes
                   Preperation for Music Editing
                   Rough Preview Mixing (Pro Tools, etc)
         Possible Ghostwriting
         Software (Macintosh)
               Finale
               Sibelius
               Pro Tools
               Logic
               Internet (GoLive, iWeb)
         Pre-Composition
               Attending Spotting Sessions (Taking notes, etc)
               Preparing Templates (Sounds, Manuscript, etc)
               Creating Timing Notes (Hit points, markers)
         Office
               Business Software (Word, Excel, etc)
               Email Marketing
               Research
    
    People find you energetic, an organizer, a perfectionist / detail-oriented,
    having excellent communication skills, even-tempered, ambitious, creative,
    talented, gifted, intelligent, sharp / quick, functions under pressure.
    
    COMPENSATION:
    Unpaid internship.
    
    MUST BE WITHIN COMMUTING DISTANCE OF THE WEST VALLEY AREA AND READY TO BEGIN IMMEDIATELY.
    
    EMAIL RESUME IN PDF FORM TO magates at gmail dot com
    

    That's pretty much how the workflow is at a scoring stages in Los Angeles!

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  • I seriously doubt that. You got to have a pretty low self-estime to be crazy enough to work like a slave and not even get paid a penny!

  • I meant the workflow, not the unpaid practical work placement, hire and fire we called that priciple.

    The question is how fast a person who has the required talent will get paid. People working in this business are very fast in recognizing a talent. I started in 1981 pretty much like what megates posted, and was paid after a week. One of the biggest problem is finding qualified personal.


  • How fast indeed.

    I for one am curious about the average time from internship to rent-paying status.  L.A. is not kind on the wallet.

    Clark


  • Hey Angelo, back in 1981 when you started the same way, I didn't know Pro tools, Logic, Finale, internet etc. all these computer software and hardware we sweat to learn existed back then....

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    @Guy said:

    Hey Angelo, back in 1981 when you started the same way, I didn't know Pro tools, Logic, Finale, internet etc. all these computer software and hardware we sweat to learn existed back then....

    Yes, right, back then we didn't had ProStools and the other creepy crap, that's one of the reasons why the music of that era sounds so bad, we had to play the stuff because it was simply impossible to store much intelligence on 64 KB of memory. I owned one of the first Linn Drum and worked with the Synclavier.

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  • Here a link to two videos of one composer and the studio folks who sleep 3 to 4 hour during production:

    part 1

    http://www.listal.com/video/210133

    part 2

    http://www.listal.com/video/210131

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  • Angelo (sorry, why do I call you Clematide?) Those are really cool links!

  • Just FYI, the schedule on that project was pretty extreme. Most projects aren't THAT frantic. JNH came in at the last minute after Shore's departure. Those guys do get paid pretty well for working in situations like this.

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    This part makes me laugh!! I'm surprised they didn't say: "you must be good looking with a great physique..."

    @magates said:

    People find you energetic, an organizer, a perfectionist / detail-oriented, having excellent communication skills, even-tempered, ambitious, creative, talented, gifted, intelligent, sharp / quick, functions under pressure.

  • These links and this film was extensively discussed when they came out. It basically shows a couple of things. (a) John Newton Howard is a workhorse and very good filmscore writer and (b) why even try to remake King Kong unles you're mad? and (c) you can't polish a turd with filmscoring and all those extra people getting well paid and all the hours they put in - mistakenly thinking that the more work you do, the better the film will be.

  • I enjoyed the links, thought they were cool, but of course thought they had absolutely NOTHING to do with the original post on this thread.

  • well, I can say this offer shows the real world in LA ! best, imusic

  • Place me in the camp that finds this "offer" abusive. Gary Eskow

  • Hey. I know you guys got alot of funny feedback, but I'm interested. You never can learn too much you know? I'm a full time pianist, keyboard musician that just purchased a VSL set. I'm trying to get my feet wet in the L.A. film scene. If its not too late please email me. Thanks