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    Thanks!
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    Major, the staccato samples in SE alternate? Either it's very subtle or it's not happening in my SE. Some trick to getting the alternation to work?

    Thanks,

    Jason
    client: Mac Mini M1 8G OS 14.1.1 VE Pro 7.2.3388 server: MacBook Pro 2019 2.4Ghz 8-core i9 64G OS 14.0 VE Pro 7.3.3502 client <-> server dual NICs, dedicated 1000baseT connection, no switch, manual IP client + server on LAN via primary NIC using DHCP
  • PaulP
    VSL Team
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    Hello Jason,

    of course the alternation is very subtle - the two alternating versions are played with the exact same attitude - but they are 2 different staccatos, so that you don´t get a machine gun effect [:)]

    The alternation works automatically, out of the box!

    Best,

    Paul
    Paul Kopf Head of Product Marketing, Social Media and Support
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    @Paul said:

    Hello Jason,

    of course the alternation is very subtle - the two alternating versions are played with the exact same attitude - but they are 2 different staccatos, so that you don´t get a machine gun effect [:)]

    The alternation works automatically, out of the box!

    Best,

    Paul


    I was wondering, is it the same with Opus1 staccatos? I though that maybe they were altering between down and up bow? Probably not right? SISS does alternate so i though it was the case with VSL too...

    Thank you!
  • PaulP
    VSL Team
    PaulP
    Hello Jason,

    you can also alternate between two variations in OPUS 1, but you will need to use the Alternation Mode in the Performance Tool (in EXS24 or Kontakt2 this is done automatically, if you choose the right patch).

    The first thing any string player learns is that you should NEVER be able to hear what is a downbow and what´s an upbow [;)]

    Best,

    Paul
    Paul Kopf Head of Product Marketing, Social Media and Support
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    up-down bow is for aesthetical reasons: it gives the impression to the audience that the guys and girls up there are playing the same piece [:)]

    well, sometimes conductors force musicians to change direction.
    these conductors are being hated afterwards.

    c
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    I kind of expected a response like that. [[;)]]
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    The guys are correct about violin training. However, for some articulations there is always a difference between up and down bow, no matter how good you are. For fastish spiccato you will often find that the upbow is slightly quieter, due to the fact that the energy of the stroke is mostly produced for the down bow. At slower speeds this is not the case. Also one has to take into account that there are many times when one plays two upbows, rather than an alternating stroke.

    DG
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    @DG said:

    The guys are correct about violin training. However, for some articulations there is always a difference between up and down bow, no matter how good you are.

    In "normal" playing you're supposed to make them sound the same, but they do sound very different if you want them to. It's been years since I played violin in an orchestra, but I distinctly remember at least one piece where consecutive down bows were explicitly notated in a marcato passage.
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    I have some up and down bows and made a instrument that alternate and the effect is really nice. The alternate instrument seem to have more life than the one that does not alternate.

    I'm not complaining as VSL are stiff my favourite samples. [[;)]]