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  • W
    W
    sorry to drag this thread up again - but is the pro fire lightbridge intel compatible I can't seem to see that it is......

    thats bad news as I've just gone for the mac mini and its intel


    W
  • cmC
    VSL Team
    cmC
    IMO it is neither a specific problem of mini or intel or OS X or lightbridge or driver or connected harddisk - it is always the overall setup. components have to cooperate, supported by protocol, operating system, drivers and other devices on the same bus.
    everything has to be in balance, otherwise it is plug & pray [:P]
    christian
    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • D
    D
    Yes the profire is compatible with Mac/Intel. With the mini however you can't (as cm suggests) use the Firewire bus for both audio and disk streaming. So I'm streaming using USB 2 off an external drive. That's asking for trouble but I'm getting away with it for now. Best would be change system drive out for larger 7200 and steam off that while using FW bus for Profire audio out.
  • V
    V
    Im using USB2 to stream from a hardware-raid drive (overkill yes) and I get plenty of clicks and pops with just 5 VIs if I use velocity xfading on all instances.
  • cmC
    VSL Team
    cmC
    just to have it said (again): a hardware raid might work fine for video- or audio-streaming (huge files, continuous read), but not be configured for sample-streaming (little portions spread across the whole drive).
    and i think you know my opinion about USB - it's cr*p for audio and harddisks. use it for mice, keyboards, webcams, ipods, printers and similar uncritical devices ...
    besides SCSI the best connection is sATA - if not available use firewire (adds asome CPU load, but is reliable), just avoid chaining harddisks with audio devices.
    christian
    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • V
    V
    Hard on a Mac Mini with one FW port/bus Christian. [[;)]]

    And Im using the internal hardrive, and are only having the RAID HD to transfer to other computers as well as keeping a HD backup.
  • cmC
    VSL Team
    cmC
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    @Vagn Luv said:

    Hard on a Mac Mini with one FW port/bus

    i know, i know ... i never understood why the second sATA port has not been added to the external connectors - too bad, it is rather tiny.
    probably they refused to do this because sATA is currently not plug&play on OS X (also not on XP btw) and this would contradict their philosophy ...

    the counterexample it _can_ work is the RME fireface, which allows connected harddisks (tested config was an intel mini, a fireface 400 and a maxtor oneTouch II)
    christian
    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
  • D
    D
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    @cm said:

    ...the counterexample it _can_ work is the RME fireface, which allows connected harddisks (tested config was an intel mini, a fireface 400 and a maxtor oneTouch II)
    christian


    cm, to confirm: you are saying that the Fireface 400 allows for both audio and streaming from a single FW port with no problems?

    thanks,

    DC
  • J
    J
    I´m just about ready to order a few of the new mini´s and FF400´s to use with FW 800 drives.

    I would highly appreaciate a confirmation that this works.

    All the best,

    Jochen

    edit: ups, just read cm´s post. This seems to be all the confirmation I need.

    The only question left is how many VI´s I get out of the 2 gig ram limit.
    Without crack´s and pop´s.
  • cmC
    VSL Team
    cmC
    i can't see any FW800 port ...
    <a href=http://images.apple.com/de/macmini/images/indexports20060229.jpg">
    fortunately FW800 drives are downward compatible, most of them also offer FW400 connectors so you wouldn't even need an adapter cable.

    edit: you should be able to load ~20.000 samples ... spread this amount across the patches at your convenience ...
    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
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    @Josch said:


    The only question left is how many VI´s I get out of the 2 gig ram limit.
    Without crack´s and pop´s.


    1.6 gigs (give or take a little.)