I think you hear the instrument keys ... in an orchestral mix (reverb, EQ, strings, brasses, percussions,..), you won't hear it anymore. It's a natural effect ... you don't have this in an "basic" library [8-)]

I don't thinks so.
I heard this particular effect only when the distance betwen the notes is more then 3 or 4 half tones.
If i play an ensamble orchestra i don't rear anymore, but...
but if i play a solo flute in a slow passage is fantastic hear this sound that it play like a "gluc".

I repeat for me is a VI's algorithm problem.

Hi Fulx

I think this are defenitively the keynoises of the flute.

best
Herb

maybe is like Herb says. Mah =(dubt)

Someone spend 5 minute of your tme for testing and post his experience.
Where i can post my test?
Best
Fulx

You could download the midifile and VI presetfile of our Syrinx demo for solo flute 1.

You can find it here:
http://www.vsl.co.at/Player2.aspx?Lang=12&DemoId=4668

If this demo sounds different on your system (except the reverb of course)
than there is a problem with your sound database/setup, or maybe the attack slider of the VI is set too low?

best
Herb

Hi Herb,
before of all Jai have composed a fantastic "demo" I thinks that every vsl user (or better, new musician user) must downloaded. The use of articualtion is impressive, and his music is great.

I've played it in midi file and in wma, the sound is the same (except fo the reverb).
I'm displeasure that nobody has answered to the test that I have proposed.
however i try to defrag the disk, maybe....

Thanks
bye
Fulx

Hi Fulx.

>load performance interval legato flute 1
>play c4 and after (legato) g4
>you will hear a click on the second note

I tested this and couldn't hear any clicks. That patch has two velocities, both sounded totally clean on this interval and all other ones I tried.

Thanks Conquer for the test,
but for me the problem remain, overall on the low velocyty.
anyone have a suggestion?
Fulx

double check that you don't have the GS3 memory tweaks on your system.

hi,
this is may daw:
xp pro 64bit
4 gb ram
cubase studio 4
m-auduo keystation pro 88
Focusrite saffire

I,ve try to comeback at 32bit windows system, but nothing is changed.

The thing strage is that the "legato problem" is always on the same passage.
For this I think this is not a daw problem but a software problem

Bye
Fulx

Try increasing the latency setting of your soundcard, that sometimes gets rid of clicks.

>I've try to comeback at 32bit windows system, but nothing is changed

Not sure what you mean by that, can you explain please? The legato patches do use a very large number of samples and are therefore the most likely to create a strain on the system.

that i heard don't is a electric click, but a difference of sound between two type of transition notes in legato. thats all.
Is very difficult describe a sound
Fulx

I think maybe what you're hearing is a very quiet 'gulp' as the G4 note takes over from the C4. As Herb says, it's a natural sound made by the instrument's keys. To me it sounds like part of an organic flute performance (which of course is what it actually is, as the legato intervals are all taken from real life note transitions.)

It's possible we're not hearing the same thing (and I agree that's it's difficult to accurately describe the subtleties of sound in words), but to my ears this little noise helps the legato interval to sound real - if it wasn't there, you'd hear a straight C4 sample followed by a straight G4 sample with nothing in between to help join them together in real legato style.

Flute 1's 'sus vib' samples don't make this sound, so you could use them instead if it bothers you.

The other thing to bear in mind is that when you close-mic an isolated instrument you hear a lot of detail you wouldn't normally notice, such as squeaks, buzzes, key clicks and so on. When you add reverb or other instruments these sounds become less noticeable, but they probably still play a subliminal part in achieving an overall realism.

Conquer,
I think we're hearing the same thing, beacuse i I've describe this sound (some days ago) like a "gluc".
Therefore, as Herb has right said, and now you have specified, this is a right real sound
Thanks everybody,
Fulx

I'm here again.

try these
load oboe 2 perf legato
play b3 and after c4 in legato mode listen....
another one
play c4 and after d4 in legato mode listen

these passages produce the same artefact sound. that produces the flute legato(c4 to g4) , that i've said before.
I'ts impossible that 2 different instruments having the same keys or valves rumors.

Fulx

Hi Falx. I hear the little sound you mean. Whatever caused it, it sounds acceptable and fairly natural to me. I think it's part of the samples, not a bug.

Sorry, but for me is not acceptable from VSL
I hope that Vsl team works on this
Fulx

Fulx, sorry I mispelled your name! Is anyone else out there disturbed by these inter-sample sounds?

Conquer, any problem for the name.
do you have reason, 680 members had read this post.
anyone write what thinks?
Fulx