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  • 2 Questions concerning the Special Edition

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    Hi

    I'm thinking about buying the Special Edition. So I'm interested in the following things:

    1. Can I have the content/samples of the Special Edition on two (or more) different harddiscs on the same computer (either by splitting the library or just copying the whole content) ?
    I ask because I'm not sure if only one harddisc would be fast enough for the massiv work of streaming while playing a real fat arrangement.

    2. Are there really more articulations (at least for some instruments) on the old Opus1 than on the new Special Edition ?
    For example for the Trombones-Ensemble of the Opus1, there are:

    @Another User said:

    Staccato, Sustained, Sforzato, Legato, Legato with sustain crossfading (except muted)

    Is this right, or did you just forgot to mention these other articulations for the Special Edition ?

  • Does nobody know an answer ?

    And is it right, that there are no trills in the Special Edition (I mean of course, there are no performance-trills, but at least some old-style trill-samples would be nice) ?

    It's of course still a very nice offer with a great price/performance-value, but anyways I'd like to know before I buy it.

  • I don't know the answer to the first question. It likely won't work if you duplicate the library across more than one disk since the search path will use the first one it finds and will always get if from the same disk. There are several files that make up the library, but I don't know if they can be spread across more than one disk. It would be interesting to know since this is the bottleneck.

    Question two, yes there are less articulations in SE than in Opus for a given instrument, but there are more instruments in SE than in Opus. Typical of VSL to not provide upgrades but rather require one to buy more/different sample sets.

    No there are not any trills in SE.

  • Thx for your answer.

    Ok, I guess the most important articulations are there.
    But I just got a new question ...
    I'd like to know how the velocity-crossfades with the modwheel are sounding with only 3 layers.
    Especially the brasses would interest me. So could somebody who has the Special Edition just post an mp3-example of some simple crossfades (single tones or simple chords) of the following instruments ?
    - Trumpet / Trumpet-Ensemble
    - Trombone / Trombones-Ensemble
    - Horn / Horn-Ensemble

    Because of my question concerning the harddiscs:
    Isn't it maybe like for Kontakt, that you just have a patch-file with relative folder-paths to the samples ? So that you could just double the whole library to another disc ...
    Or is it maybe possible to just install the whole VSTi with library twice (ok, probably not, I guess) ?
    Would be cool to get an answer from the developer conerning this issue.

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    What's up here ?
    Are the questions to "difficult" ? Is it because I'm a new user ? Were just the most users here too busy because of the "Critisising the Standardized Wide Range Dynamic Environment"-thread ?

    I'd really like to get an answer to at least the first of my questions:

    @Another User said:

    1. Can I have the content/samples of the Special Edition on two (or more) different harddiscs on the same computer (either by splitting the library or just copying the whole content) ?
    I ask because I'm not sure if only one harddisc would be fast enough for the massiv work of streaming while playing a real fat arrangement.

    Ah I know ... it's because I didn't said "please". [:O]ops:
    So now a second try:
    Could someone please give me an answer ?

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    LazyPeon, a *please* might help, although i admit having overlooked the technical question [;)]

    the source for the *sounds* are .dat-files, which can be spread across several disks in case of a performance issue or simply lack of space, the directory manager video could give you more insight.
    but usually this should be not the bottleneck according to the following calculation (i'm counting 4 byte for a stereo sample because of the compressed dataformat on the disk)
    1 stereo stream 44,1 kHz needs ~170 kB/s data from the disk, modern disks should deliver ~20 MB/s (we need to take the numbers for random access and not for sustained) so viewed from this corner you should not get in trouble before ~ 120 stereo *voices*
    thats one of the reasons we note a *fast seperate harddisk* as system requirement - other bottlenecks might apply earlier of course ...
    christian

    and remember: only a CRAY can run an endless loop in just three seconds.
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    @cm said:


    thats one of the reasons we note a *fast seperate harddisk* as system requirement - other bottlenecks might apply earlier of course ...
    christian



    Hi Christian, I've ordered my VSL SE, very excited by the way! According to the SE tour it says that SE only takes up 54-55 GB of HD space because of the lossless compression of the samples. However, the system requirements state, like you said, "a fast seperate harddisk with at least 80GB of space". Is there a reason that 80GBs are required when the lossless compression only needs 54 GB?

    Thanks! Brian

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    Ah cool, thx for the answer cm.
    I should have watched these videos. *g*

    @Another User said:

    the reason is simple: the unkopressed database has about 80 GB and if we would write *you need 55 GB free space on your harddisk* many users would claim *it stutters and crackles* (because the harddisk is significantly slower on its *end*).
    since it is always a good idea to keep at least 10%, better 20-25% free space on aharddisk the *requirement* is 80 GB to avoid at least this bottleneck.
    christian