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    Hi, I've listened to the demos of Vienna Instruments, they sound great, I'm am wondering if the great concert hall convolution reverb sound that I hear on the demos is part of the software or just great mixing?

    Tallyho
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    I can only speak for myself ... I used some of Logic Pro's space designer preset IR convolution reverbs with a few minor tweaks. As for mixing ... I'm still slowly learnng how this delicate art works. The more you rely on your ears and on the db levels of the samples themselves (as opposed to trying to balance tracks in the mix), the better the mix seems to be. Also, I think the less I mess with limiters and compressors, the better the outcome. The Basic Instinct recording, for example, uses no compression, no limiter, but a bit of EQ on the violins.

    I'm curious to hear what other performers are using, too. Some get such a warm, immediate quality that's still sounding roomy. I'm mystified. How's that done?!?
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    @tallyho said:

    Hi, I've listened to the demos of Vienna Instruments, they sound great, I'm am wondering if the great concert hall convolution reverb sound that I hear on the demos is part of the software or just great mixing?

    Tallyho


    The reverbs that you hear are not part of the VSL library. The instruments were recorded in a "silent room", so there is a VERY small amount of room resonance. But for all intents and purposes, the samples are "dry".

    What you are hearing is great mixing-- not only with the instrumental balances and choices of articulations, but with clever reverb programming.

    Reverbs used differ from user to user and range from those bundled with their preferred DAWs -- those included with Cubase/Nuendo, Logic, Digital Performer, and certainly the vast array of high end reverbs that run with Pro Tools-- to whatever third-party reverbs there are on the market.

    Some have also mentioned using the following:

    1. UAD-1 Dreamverb and Plate 140
    2. Altiverb
    3. TC-TCR 3000, System 6000, etc
    4. Lexicon reverbs (various)
    5. Waves (various)
    6. Wizoo

    and many more.

    There are many threads with detailed reverb discussions, many of which are in the Mixing and Post Prodution forum. Some users such as Beat Kaufmann have tutorials on their own websites, and hetoreyn is publish podcasts of how-to's as well (to name just two).

    But it seems that any discussion about reverbs for VSL would be remiss without at least some mention of the very promising MIR created by VSL especially for this purpose... it's not available yet, but it looks promising. If you haven't seen it, check out the preview video:

    http://vsl.co.at/en-us/65/71/250.vsl
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    I for one have (for a long time) anticipated the benefits to MIR. But I am beginning to think it is still far off.


    Come on Intel release that CPU with 80 core processors (read about yesterday in local paper)- so that we can have our MIR.


    Rob
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    @Rob Elliott said:

    I for one have (for a long time) anticipated the benefits to MIR. But I am beginning to think it is still far off.


    Come on Intel release that CPU with 80 core processors (read about yesterday in local paper)- so that we can have our MIR.


    Rob


    Rob! I read an article about the Intel 80-Core, too! Intriguigng that they're using 3.16 Ghz processors. This confirms that CPU clusters are indeed the focus and not massive increases in individual CPU speed-- not yet anyway. I also found it interesting that they weren't using their new 45nm chips but the larger 65nm chips.

    They future looks bright, but I agree that it's also be further off than we'd like.

    MIR.

    <sigh>