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  • Fadeouts (dimuendos)

    Hi, I have asked this question before, I know, but haven't yet gotten the answer that works for me: How do you get the last note in a phrase to fade out naturally instead of sounding as if it had been chopped off? I have VSL, Digital Performer, Kontakt2, Waves, and a Studiologic keyboard. It has been suggested that I use controller #11, so I have asked MOTU about how this can be brought about in DP, but have not heard back from them. By adjusting the release control button in Kontakt a nice fade is achieved, but unfortunately on every note in the phrase instead of just the last note. I have tried using release samples for the last note, but, unless I am not doing it right, there is no noticeable change. Using the mod wheel samples is a little better, but it still sounds chopped off at the end of the fade (dimuendo). I would very much appreciate hearing about anyone else's experience along these lines and whatever solution was come upon. Thx, OJ

  • You Keyswitch to the decrescendo samples which existt in 2 , 3, and 6 seconds versions with 2 velocity levels

    F-to PPP
    M to ppp

    worx great.

    SvK

  • Or you use cc11, which most people do automatically while sequencing anyway. There's nothing special you need to do in DP or any other sequencer - it's just recorded along with everything else. You can also draw it in, or overdub it separately afterwards.

  • Nick,

    Better still...IN VI performance page RIGHT -click expression, and assign it to pitch-bend.

    Now go to "controller-map" and make it an Equal-power curve...

    Now when you bend pitch-wheel to the left the volume fades out....I've customised all my patches to do this.

    SvK

  • I forgot to mention that I only have Solo Strings and Opus 1. It looks like you all might have the new VI, which might make a difference here. If not, how do you actually apply controller #11 to make the note in question fade out in a natural sounding way? (where do I find controller # 11? What button do I push?). I have also looked through the samples listed in the booklets that came along with Solo Strings and Opus 1 and I can't locate any samples, keyswitch or otherwise, with the designation m-ppp or forte-ppp. Am I overlooking something? Also, the term "controller-map" isn't clear to me, so I'm guessing that it has something to do with the new tool in VI. Is that so? Lastly, if I do get into the new VI, for the possibilities that seem to be suggested here, would Orchestral Strings be a good beginning choice? Or maybe Chamber Strings? I'm mainly interested in the string sounds now, but the expanded percussion in the new VI is very compelling also. Thx all, OJ [[;)]]

  • SvK, that makes sense (although on my keyboard the pitch wheel is a wheel that doesn't go to the left), but I prefer a physical control that doesn't automatically zero. I prefer a slider for that reason.

    But I do wish my controller (Kurzweil K2500) had two continuous wheels like the Yamaha VL1 has. It has lots of other stuff - many sliders, a ribbon controller, and a small ribbon that's very nice, though, so I can't complain.

  • Svonkampen

    Once I thought I was right but I was mistaken. [:D]