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  • JWL, I can't agree with you more. I think the question is, are we trying to make a "product" in and of itself, or are we trying to create the most realistic sounding acoustic instruments? I too feel that some of my mixes of large orchestras can sound too "in your face" but it always amazes me how shocked people are when I play a chamber piece very dry and people are knocked out by how real and "in the room" it sounds. This is something that years ago Audiophiles would die for and it baffled them for years. They would treat the rooms with all kinds of acoustic materials and bass traps but it always bothered me because if you play a real sax or a real violin in any room, it always sounded real. Now I think I understand why, whether or not we choose to go for that sound is entirely a different thing, but at least we have the option.

  • Eric-- perhaps this supports the notion that starting with great samples puts one way ahead of the curve. While we who use VSL are always wondering how far away from reality (ie: worse) our results might be, the listener is probably more aware of how far removed (ie: better) the sound of VSL is from what they might be more accustomed to hearing.

    In any case, it's always fascinating to me to examine how others use VSL to different results.

  • Fantastic DG - especialy the last half. I like both versions. What patches did you use to compose the short string lines that pop up in the last half supporting the main line.

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    @Christian Marcussen said:

    Fantastic DG - especialy the last half. I like both versions. What patches did you use to compose the short string lines that pop up in the last half supporting the main line.

    All perf leg.......

    DG

  • DG-- are you going to put up version 3?

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    @JWL said:

    DG-- are you going to put up version 3?

    I was going to let this thread die a death as the joke is getting rather old......!

    DG

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    @JWL said:

    DG-- are you going to put up version 3?

    I was going to let this thread die a death as the joke is getting rather old......!

    DG
    Well, the joke may be old, but the discussions have been interesting...

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    @JWL said:

    DG-- are you going to put up version 3?

    I was going to let this thread die a death as the joke is getting rather old......!

    DG
    Well, the joke may be old, but the discussions have been interesting...
    OK, you win..........

    [URL=http://darylgriffith.com/production/faltering/Faltering%20Longer%20Reverb%20-%20Daryl%20Griffith.mp3] Faltering More Damply[/URL]

    DG

  • YAY!!!! [[[[:D]]]] [[[[:D]]]] [[[[:D]]]] [[[[:D]]]]

  • Third version also my choise!!

    Very soothing piece.
    Hey DG, I saw you also do some production music. Could you give the album titles, please? I do have some KPM discs but those are all poppy things. Thanks!

  • And to finish it thoroughly DG, having added all that ''Hollywood sound'', can i dare suggest the addition of wordless choirs, and.......

    Taiko Drums?

    Now i'm going to hide for a little while.

    [[:|]]

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    @hermitage59 said:

    And to finish it thoroughly DG, having added all that ''Hollywood sound'', can i dare suggest the addition of wordless choirs, and.......

    Taiko Drums?

    Now i'm going to hide for a little while.

    [[:|]]

    You've already had one warning; don't make me come over there!!!!!!!!!!!! [6]

    DG

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    @hermitage59 said:

    And to finish it thoroughly DG, having added all that ''Hollywood sound'', can i dare suggest the addition of wordless choirs, and.......

    Taiko Drums?

    Now i'm going to hide for a little while.

    [[:|]]

    You've already had one warning; don't make me come over there!!!!!!!!!!!! [6]

    DG

    [H] Bagpipes?

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    [H] Bagpipes?

    That's cheating [:D]

    DG

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    @hermitage59 said:


    [H] Bagpipes?

    That's cheating [:D]

    DG

    [[:|]]
    Who's cheating?

    piano accordian?

  • Is it safe to come out yet?................
    [H]

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    @weslldeckers said:

    Third version also my choise!!

    Very soothing piece.
    Hey DG, I saw you also do some production music. Could you give the album titles, please? I do have some KPM discs but those are all poppy things. Thanks!


    Hi

    Here are some of the more recent ones:

    535 Spirit of the Times
    569 String Perspectives
    596 Positive Evolutions 2
    625 Transitions

    DG

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    @hermitage59 said:

    Is it safe to come out yet?................
    [H]

    Don't worry, I can bide my time......

    DG

  • DG

    I thought about your suggestions on what kind of demo's to post, I beleive you were tending to ?

    I think that as you stated a piece of music has to be mixed with-in an inch of its life. I think that is correct. And nothing but, with all do respect to the well thought out other opinions. Which are of great importance. I think to do VSL justice nothing but nothing should be posted unless its absolutely thoroughly mixed. The demo's that are on now ar very well demo'd. Of-course one can even get closer, but the music speaks for itself. One has to take account that these issues are being pioneered world wide as we speak. And there arn't anyone else producing this state of the art technology throughout the world. So its sounds that are completely new. And if one is to mix their own CD for sales, wouldn't be the only way to mix thoroughly for consumer's best interest. The same goes for VSL, it is a business driven of consumer's interest . These new sounds are all new and new music takes a while for it to sink in of-course. Like a good year of a nice bottle of fermented, aged wine. ( I'm on a gerritol diet ) Thank goodnes the computer doesn't intoxicate physicaly. But thats the picture I get. With all do respect to others opinions of-course.
    '[*-)]:'


    And I also have a question DG:

    Were you interviewed by BBC I believe or the other network at one occation and you had a telescope you were looking into during the interview sitting in front of the piano ? Was that you ? Somehow I picture thats you compared with the posting personality and the music you are presenting. Just curious ? Its been 3 thears ago or so in England.'[*-)]:'

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    @R.K. said:


    Were you interviewed by BBC I believe or the other network at one occation and you had a telescope you were looking into during the interview sitting in front of the piano ? Was that you ? Somehow I picture thats you compared with the posting personality and the music you are presenting. Just curious ? Its been 3 thears ago or so in England.'[*-)]:'

    That wasn't me! I think that the last time I appeared in person on the BBC, I was wearing a dress and full stage make-up. Or maybe that was a dream [[:|]]

    DG