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  • VI-14 perf-legato loud swell on sustaining notes in phrase

    This is strange behaviour: an octave above middle C play a med slow tempo phrase around 90 midi velocity C-D-E-F-G and hold the G. You will hear a fairly loud swell on the G. Can this be fixed? thanks!

  • I have heard this. When I looked into it, it was unique to the VI ensemble violins. I was experimenting with cell delays, and I'd hold a legato note longer than usual in a flowing line. I heard a crescendo come in, and I couldn't figure out why. I muted one cell (lowering the volume to zero), and realized that the other cell played according to my delay... fell silent... and then it played a second time, swelling the same way Bruce describes. I tried the same two-cell settings with the VI legato ensemble cellos, and there was no second crescendo note.

  • Couldn't reproduce any loud swell.
    But maybe the perf-leg_4V version fits better, here the sustains are more static.

    best
    Herb

  • Aha Plowman, thanks now I know I'm not hearing things. I thought my mod wheel had gone wild when this happened or that the players had changed bow direction with a swell for an effect.

    Herb, midi velocities have to be over approx 89 to hear the effect and then only in or at the end of a phrase. And the note has to be held for over a second or two or three.

    I like the perf-leg_4V very much but I have them assigned to my 2nd Violins Custom Matrix.

  • First, after some experimenting, I realized what I was hearing was based on my delay and ADSR settings. That was a "false positive."

    But then I loaded VI-14_perf-legato and played as Bruce described. The note "evolves" as you hold it, tending to be louder. I assume it's a portion of the cross-faded sample, and it sounds like the loop is taken from the non-legato (what you'd hear if you just held down the G as a "start note").

    Try playing G alone, then G with a legato approach from another note. You'll hear the legato target G morphing into the non-legato sound.

    Having played VSL since the First Edition, I'm just glad it sustains. [:D]

    The 4V is indeed more even as it holds.

  • This note WILL jump out of your score. It is an interesting effect however.