We have a windows xp sp2 desktop with the latest version of Forte and 4 Gigs of RAM

Audio interface is the Tascam Firewire 1884

Main plugin we are using in Forte is the new Vienna Instruments

Forte says it sees 3 Gigs of RAM available (the actual amount XP sees is 3.62 Gigs)

CONSISTENTLY Forte will completely crash and altogether quit whenever the amount of samples loaded exceeds 1 gig of RAM

It is completely repeatable every time. Can anybody help with this?

We followed the instructions exactly for using the 3GB switch so windows can let other programs use more RAM, and afterward cannot fully boot windows when selecting that 3GB upon startup.

Here is the error we get:

Windows can not create a temporary profile directory. This may be caused by insufficient security rights. If this problem persists, contact your network administrator. Detail - insufficient system resources exist to complete the requested service.

Then you hit OK and it then says:

Windows cannot load the user's profile but has logged you on with the default profile for the system. Detail - insufficient system resources exist to complete the requested service.

And after that you can see the user but if you try to select it to log in, it brings you right back to the error message.

So that you guys know, the motherboard we are using in this machine is the ASUS P4C-800E Deluxe.

This morning we updated the BIOS to the most recent version before attempting the 3GB switch.

Still no luck.

Can anyone help?

Hi
here's some suggestions for you to check out.

Did you follow the pc optimization guide for DAWs - and most importantly did you turn of fast user switching? ( Control panel -> user accounts -> change the way users log on and off )

Maybe Forte is unable to be Large Address Aware, in which case running the LAA program to change the Forte configuration will mess it up.
In that case I think you should "de-LAA" Forte.

Hmmm...

It says that it is LAA, but...if anyone knows otherwise, please let me know. It still crashes.

Thanks,

CL

Have you done any memory tweaks like those recommended to run GigaStudio, for example? If so, remove them and go back to Windows default.

I think that Forte is a red herring in your case. If the /3gig switch is not working, then that is the first thing you need to fix. I also wonder whether you are logging in as the Administrator in your system. You need to do this otherwise certain things will not be allowed by Windows.

Are you running sp2? All my machines that have the switch installed are running sp2, and the enabling took less than 30 seconds on each.

DG

Mattias,
The link to your app is down. Anyway to still get the app?
Thanks

Just to confirm, I need to add the 3GB switch tot he boot loader and tweak the Sonar PDR.exe fiel as well before large address awareness will apply. Correct? I'm not as smart as you guys so excuse the dumb question.
Thanks,
Kevin
PS. Any idea if Sonar 6 is LA capable?
K.

Hi Keyjazz
yes - put in the 3gb switch in the boot file and run Mathias' utility on the Sonar exe file following the instructions in this thread - and you should be ready to go.
Sonar is LAA capable ( use Sonar 6 myself ) [:D]

Beware that some of us has had some problems getting this working
( Bios trouble and more...). Read the postings in this thread if it does'nt work right away. You should be able to load approx. 2.7 Gb.

I assume that if I have my VIs on a computer other than that where Sonar is located that I would only have to put the 3GB switch on that second computer and make sure that the VST host I used, FX Teleport, Forte, whatever, was LAA. I shouldn't have to mess with Sonar or the 3GB switch on the Sonar computer because Sonar would only be receiving MIDI and audio and not loading samples. Is this correct?
Also I guess that Sonar 6 does not come LAA but you can tweak it okay. Right?
Thanks,
Kevin

Anyone know where to get Mattias app? The link to his app is dead.
Thanks

Anyone?

Hi guys, sorry for my absence in this thread... I've had too many things on my hands lately to be able to monitor any forums whatsoever.

Kevin, the answer to both of your questions are...yes! [:)]

Tripit, sorry, I failed to include the file when updating the site...it's up there again now.

/Mattias

I am using plogue bidule as a host. Is it LAA capable?

So far I can load about 1.9GB on the PC (with 3GB RAM) and the 3GB switch. I am currently using GVI (rather than VI).

Also, Matthias, you referred to the PC optimisation guide - where can I find it?

How can I get access to those memory options in the BIOS? Is it safe to change parameters there without being a PC expert?

Should I install another 1GB RAM in order to get to load 2.8GB?

Dom

@Dom said:

I am using plogue bidule as a host. Is it LAA capable?

So far I can load about 1.9GB on the PC (with 3GB RAM) and the 3GB switch. I am currently using GVI (rather than VI).

Also, Matthias, you referred to the PC optimisation guide - where can I find it?

How can I get access to those memory options in the BIOS? Is it safe to change parameters there without being a PC expert?

Should I install another 1GB RAM in order to get to load 2.8GB?

Dom

Dom, I can get about 2.6-2.7Gb with 3GB RAM installed. If you have the LTD app then this will tell you whether or not your host is LAA. If you can't get hold of this, then email me and I'll send you a copy (although it might be an early one).

You also say that you're using GVI. If you are loading all those samples within one instance, then GVI will also have to be LAA for you to get more.

DG

Solved - many thanks! I just patched Bidule for LAA, and left GVI, as the load is spread over 5 GVI instances. I can load 2.8GB on the 3GB machine now!

Dom

Glad it all works. Just be careful about trying to load too much; on my 3GB machines I can actually get nearly 2.9GB, but weird things happen and I even get templates that don't load. Let me know how you get on with GVI as I'm thinking of trying it for some of my non VSL stuff.

DG

Certainly, it all felt a bit wobbly with 2.8Gb loaded - but exciting. GVI is working very well, I've only had one little problem with it so far (it involves MIDI control number 91 which sends GVI kind of crazy if it receives a value below around 15).

Dom

@Dom said:

Certainly, it all felt a bit wobbly with 2.8Gb loaded - but exciting. GVI is working very well, I've only had one little problem with it so far (it involves MIDI control number 91 which sends GVI kind of crazy if it receives a value below around 15).

Dom

Lucky I don't use that one then. [:D]

DG

Glad to hear you sorted it out. If anyone should need it the LaaTiDo setup can be found at http://www.musikbanken.se/laatidosetup.exe">http://www.musikbanken.se/laatidosetup.exe

/Mattias

Question:

My last line ends:
noexecute=optin/fastdetect

should it read (after the switch):
noexecute=optin/fastdetect/3GB

or do I need to reverse it like:

fastdetect/noexecute=optin/3GB

Thanks

Also, if I am going to go from 2 gigs ram (2 of 4 slots filled) to 3 gigs, do I have to fill the other two slots with 512's or can I just but a 1 gig stick in the third slot and leave the 4th slot open?

The ram is DDR 400.

Thanks again.