@Dietz said:

David is completly correct with his explaination.

But just to make sure that we are aware of the idea behind that: The MIR will offer the possibility to instantiate each instrument or ensemble with its "natural" loudness. Of course this will be only a starting point for finer adjustments, depending on factors like arrangement, selected stage, positioning of the instruments and so on.

Well this is really quite interesting! It seems, and other little details that have been surfacing have also indicated, that MIR is really going to go well beyond what a 'regular' convolution reverb does..

Perhaps this has already been asked, but will it be possible to use MIR effectively (ie. to the full capacity of its features) with the Giga versions of the VSL libraries (as well as integrating any other samples one may choose to use)?

Its no secret any more now that the MIR will rely a lot on the possibilities that the dedicated player-format of the Vienna Instruments offers. The embedded meta-data will supply the MIR with information what to do with a certain incoming signal, regarding volume, positioning and more.

Due to the close integration between MIR and the VIs we will concentrate on this, I think. But of course the will be an option to send other signals into the MIR, too - at least to a certain amount.

@Dietz said:

Its no secret any more now that the MIR will rely a lot on the possibilities that the dedicated player-format of the Vienna Instruments offers. The embedded meta-data will supply the MIR with information what to do with a certain incoming signal, regarding volume, positioning and more.

Due to the close integration between MIR and the VIs we will concentrate on this, I think. But of course the will be an option to send other signals into the MIR, too - at least to a certain amount.

So Dietz, a few thoughts from someone who has beta tested a fair amount of software in the last 18 months.

1. I would like to see you have with MIR simplified ensemble templates for orchestral positioning. An excellent resource for this is Anatomy of the Orchestra by Norman Del Mar which can be purchased through Amazon. Here, Del Mar, a conductor, shows a number of different orchestral setups, all of which can be achieved with VSL because of how you recorded it.

2. Next, it would be great to have templates for smaller ensemble setups like:

a) string quartet
b) woodwind ensemble(s)
c) standard brass ensemble
d) Percussion ensembles

3. I trust you have Giga 3 and know to some degree GigaPulse. I've spoken to Larry Seyer who created the Larry Seyer Reverb that's packaged within GigaPulse. Given the close mic position in which VSL has been recorded, within GigaPulse you can create close, far and distant mic positions. Assuming you can do this within MIR, how fantastic it would be to have templates by section by mic position.

I mention this because of one word: budgets.

In doing professional film/tv/dramatic work, most of us are not engineers. So what we need are pre-engineered solutions.

4. Similar to SX3, Logic and GS 3, it would be great to have inputs so that other libraries that may need to be used can have MIR applied to it, thus creating a consistent sound. Without such a feature, we now have to try to either match reverbs (a valuable loss of time) or only use MIR for panning purposes and have the audio run into a hardware reverb like the Lexicon PCM 90 (which is constantly in use for film/tv) or the Lexicon 960.

I bring this up because so often, companies bring out products without ever asking about our work procedures or demands producers/studios put on us.

Anyway, these are just a few thoughts. Please don't take offense, especially since I never knew about the awards you've previously won.

Peter, thanks for your detailed question. I'll try to answer as thoroughly as possible, assuming that the MIR is not ready for official announcements yet.

ad 1&2: Templates are part of the MIR concept, they can be stored and recalled partially as well as whole setups. They are user-configurable and can be shared amongst users, and of course there will be some default settings, too. Be aware, though, that we talk about _real_ stages in real halls, so not every parameter will lead to comparable sonic impressions in different halls (regarding distances or relative volumes, for example).

ad 3: Our MIR-IRs are recorded from up to four distances in a multi-channel format. Of course you can choose from which distance you will listen to your virtual orchestra, but in general you will not be able to _mix_ these mic-positions (except for some special applications I won't elaborate here). The reason for this is simple: Due to our concept and recording format, we are talking about 300 and more IRs for a complete stage form _each single mic-position_ - you can imagine that it would be impossible (within reasonable limits) to double or triple this amount within one single setup.

@Another User said:

I bring this up because so often, companies bring out products without ever asking about our work procedures or demands producers/studios put on us.

Peter, all people involved in the MIR development (and more or less the whole Vienna Symphonic Library) are active musicians, arrangers, producers and/or engineers, so we don't work inside an ivory tower here. We won't make _everybody_ happy, that's for sure, but it's safe to say that our concept is innovative as well as straight-forward and highly practical.

I hope this answers your questions.

Kind regards -

MUST

HAVE

MIR

NOW!

God I hope it will be released around the time that the final part of SC ships![:)]

@Christian Marcussen said:

MUST

HAVE

MIR

NOW!

God I hope it will be around the shipment of the final part of SC![:)]

Yeah, I'm with you on that one. I just wish that I knew how much work I have to do to be able to afford it, as I like to do as little as possible [:D]

DG

Uh ...

@Dietz said:

[...] I'll try to answer as thoroughly as possible, assuming that the MIR is not ready for official announcements yet. [...]

I just realized that this is a silly statement, as the MIR is now officially announced since quite some time ... [8-)] ... what I actually wanted to say is: "... not ready for the official announcement of its complete feature-list."

I hope that makes more sense like that.

We understood it well enough to want it [;)] [H]

We all still believe in MIRacles [:D]

Is it true that in 2006, NAMM stands for "National Announcement of MIR Module?"

Please don't overlook this fine marketing opportunity.

[:D] ... nice try!