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  3. Where are the arpeggios?

  • Where are the arpeggios?

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    Surely I must be out to left field. I was so looking forward to this because somebody had told me it was in the complete orchestral package: "Arpeggios", (for strings) I looked in the products description for articulations and they talk about runs (which I'm already nuts about) but nothing about arpeggios.

    Tell me it's not true. [:'(]
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    The "grace" patches are made to create your own runs or arpeggios. Very useful to a great result
    [[;)]]
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    Grace notes! I imagine that must do the trick, but I found it so handy to have all the scale runs at the tip of your fingers. Wouldn't it be great if the same thing was done for all the basic major and minor arpeggios? That would be out of this world! Of course I know this is easier said than done, but just a suggestion. [[;)]]
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    Sampled arpeggios would seem to have a very limited application because of tempo and subtle changes in the sequence of notes. Melodyne would probably allow you to tweak them but doing them yourself would be just as fast if not faster.

    String runs are far more common and less varied. They will be less likely to be heard as samples whereas arpeggios would shout samples.

    My two cents
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    Am I wrong or are the Grace patches for the strings only a minor 3rd (max interval) - what if we want a maj apreddio? Hopefully I a wrong on this.

    Rob
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    @Rob Elliott said:

    Am I wrong or are the Grace patches for the strings only a minor 3rd (max interval) - what if we want a maj apreddio? Hopefully I a wrong on this.

    Rob


    I had noticed the same thing in the description, that is strange!? And a problem!


    Guy
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    @Guy said:

    I had noticed the same thing in the description, that is strange!? And a problem!
    Guy


    Who uses arpeggios these days? It's no problem at all Guy. These issues are mere details that can be overcome easily.
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    hmmm........good question, too tough to answer at the moment.

    Still, we all have our ups and downs sometimes!


    Regards,

    Alex.

    [[:|]]
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    @PaulR said:


    Who uses arpeggios these days? .


    You ARE joking???!!!
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    @hermitage59 said:


    Still, we all have our ups and downs sometimes!

    [8-)] [:D]
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    @PaulR said:


    Who uses arpeggios these days? .


    You ARE joking???!!!

    Ummm - no, not this time.

    Only shit writers use arpeggios that can't think of anything better to do. God spare me from arpeggios.

    Learn arpeggios as a form of scale excercise when you take grades - and then forget about them.

    la la la-la-la-la la la la-la-la. Load of bloody bollocks.
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    I'm not following any of this...., but arpeggios are an important tool, of course used moderately.

    Guy
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    I'm with Gun on this. I don't think you're a "shit" writer if you use arpeggios.

    Miklos.
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    @mpower88 said:

    I'm with Gun on this. I don't think you're a "shit" writer if you use arpeggios.

    Miklos.


    Lazy bullshit writing - last time I'm going to say it. Arpeggios in a sample library are TOTALLY redundant. How many versions of arpeggios do you think there are? Huh?

    Done to death by every classical composer that ever lived and should be consigned to the exercise bin where they belong.

    Any split chordal device should be done manually and sample companies have got better things to do with their time - like having lunch or going to the cinema.

    Asking for arpeggios in a sample library is really a bridge too far AFAIC.

    Bottom line - learn to play.
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    It's a question like another one ... no ? [[;)]]
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    But Paul, I just don't see how this is any different from having a bank of scale runs! Since writing is a combination of mainly scales, arpeggios and chords, how's one tool more or less important than another one? Some might use it to write shit music, that I certainly agree with, but what about the ones who wants to use it wisely? I could see this as a very handy tool. I'm a competant pianist and I could play arpeggios easily [H] but I would appreciate the natural legato effect of a recorded arppegio, just as VSL have done with repetition notes.

    Guy
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    I wasn't saying they should be included in the sample library. I was saying that they are and can be used. What if I want to record a classic peice full of arpeggios using VSL? Would it be relevant to me then. Actually I was thinking more along the lines of including larger intervals in the grace note legato parts if anything. Jeez man you're a bit bombastic if you keep on with that I'll have to get my brother to draw a cartoon of you conducting and post a link... so we can all laugh and be friends again [:O]

    Miklos.
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    Well, my idea of sampling arpeggios may be for another day. But let's get real here: If there is no major 3rd interval part of the "Grace"how the hell are you suppose to do a major or a minor arpeggio? [*-)] [*-)] [*-)]

    And I'm not complaining about it but my original question was: "Are there arpeggios?" Seems then that the answer is closer to "NO".

    Guy
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    ditto on Guy's last two posts.
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    Sampling arpeggios would have to be done at just about every tempo under the sun: totally impractical. Use the performance legato instruments or the different length samples depending upon the tempo.