www.lofinksound.com/Files/VSL_Prob.mp3


This file shows 4 things in this order........


• that it clicks at any velocity

• that it'll occur at any point in the sample when activating the slide.

• that it doesn't do it if you don't activate the slide sample

• that it won't do it with the same notes in reverse (although it's a different sample right?)


These are the only two notes that'll do it in this patch....


This DVD says it was created "Mon Dec 23, 2002, 6:51 AM"


Thanks for the welcome DG, but well, I expect everyone to stay up all night waiting by the computer "just in case" I might possibly need help. :p Is that too much to ask..........? [;)]


thanks

KID

@kid-surf said:

www.lofinksound.com/Files/VSL_Prob.mp3


This file shows 4 things in this order........


• that it clicks at any velocity

• that it'll occur at any point in the sample when activating the slide.

• that it doesn't do it if you don't activate the slide sample

• that it won't do it with the same notes in reverse (although it's a different sample right?)


These are the only two notes that'll do it in this patch....


This DVD says it was created "Mon Dec 23, 2002, 6:51 AM"


Thanks for the welcome DG, but well, I expect everyone to stay up all night waiting by the computer "just in case" I might possibly need help. 😛 Is that too much to ask..........? [;)]


thanks

KID

I can't hear a click at all on your mp3 [:O]ops: What I do hear is a release time on the first sample that sounds too short which almost gives a small gap, no matter what the tempo is. You could increase the release time for all samples in the Giga editor, or otherwise create a modwheel (see Herb's instructions) controlled release time and just increase it for this interval.

DG

Thanks for you help DG....!

I'll check that out....

But there is definitely a click in there. Like I said, it's subtle. But it's distracting enough that I can't mix with it like this. So I'm pretty screwed till I figure out how to fix it.

What are you listening to playback on? I can clearly heat it through my Gens on the MP3. Listen for it to click right after the release of the first note on the "transition" to the second note.... right at that moment. But it's not there if I play the notes separately (without the slide). So that makes me think it's in whatever sample the slide uses.

There's an actual sample used for that "transition" isn't there?


It's the type of click you'd hear if you needed to add a cross-fade to a sample that starts with a "hard in" (for lack of a better definition), vs gradually starting it's attack with the cross-fade.

KID

Here's a diagram of where the click is in the file. This diagram represents when the two notes are played with the transition slide between the notes.

MP3 FILE--------> www.lofinksound.com/Files/VSL_Prob.mp3

http://www.lofinksound.com/pics/VSLclick.jpg">


KID

fwiw, I hear the click. It's just like kid surf describes it - the kind of click you'll hear when you are, say looping a sample, but haven't quite found where the wave form ends at a zero value for the loop point.

But kid, in a mix with a bit of verb, are you sure you can't get by with it? It isn't that loud.

Ah yes; I was listening to the wrong thing. [:O]ops: As I said earlier I was more concerned at the release time. However, when asking violas to do this sort of portamento I'm surprised that there are not more clicks as they change string and finger. [:)]

Even without reverb I would suggest to increase the release time for that sample. With the normal legato instruments you have to be careful as it could mask the transition material (legato change), but with the portamento instrument I don't think that this will be a problem.

The other thing is, NEVER do any live recording if you don't like studio noise. You'll end up editing ever other note [:D]

DG

Is the VSL team out there anywhere? Maybe you guys could post this specific gig at a server for me to download?

And can you check to make sure it's not in your copy....?

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DG --- Somehow clicks sound better when it's a live recording. [[[;)]]] If that were case I wouldn't care.... And yes, I'm familiar with live recording. [[[;)]]]


The thing is, I want the "choice" to not have a click in the same note forever... [[[;)]]]

As far a difficulty to play... I just write what I like. I guess the player can figure out how to play it right. [;)]


KID

Hi kid-surf

here you have a fix,
you find an helpfile inside the zip folder

http://vsl.co.at/upload/forum/VA-10_porta_fix.zip

best
Herb

Hi Herb,

waahhooo - kid was right - after listening to the specific sample alone using the editor I also can now clearly hear this little click :-O

I also did download the replacement files, but now I'm a little bit confused:

Isn't it enough to replace the corrupted .WAV file, and then simply save the .gig ? Do I really need to apply the .art file ? The problem is, I allready updated all my performance-instrum. using the GS3 .art files. Is is save to apply this patch on updated files ?

Best,
Seb

Without an artfile the replaced sample would be transposed wrong.
You can manually drag the rout keys of the replaced sample to the right octave (from g#4 to g#2), or you can apply the giga 3 artfile once again, which should also move the routkey of the replaced sample to the right position.

best
Herb

Thanks Herb, much thanks!

I'm on it..... [:)]


KID

Worked perfectly... no more click.


Thanks Herb for the detailed and clearly stated walk though.... it's very easy for me to get lost in PC land. That was a breeze. THANKS!


KID