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  • Bug in Synchronized SE6: loco

    Synchronized SE6: Low Brass-all players loco is a patch that exists and should exist, as opposed to the octave shifted version, but the octaves never got shifted on the two lower instruments in the version you sent out. It's an easy fix just do it in the edit panel but that means we have to remember to use a user patch. Your updater app ought to be able to handle incremental fixes like this without forcing a full (and costly to you) re-download. Thanks.

    I should add for the crowd that SE6 isn't a terrific buy as all the individual players are mono recordings with zero real stereo information, but the mutes are better than the SE1/2/4 mutes I had, and there's a legato for the Wagner Tubas we have in Epic 2.0. Vienna brass like most VSL is "well-behaved" as opposed to more bombastic brass libs, but it sounds fairly natural, not too synthy, although the Smart Orchestra brass does sound synthy. There is a role for such well-behaved brass, it does get nice and edgy but not over the top, the mutes are pretty good. I wonder how the full Synchron Brass performs, the things I (and many) think Vienna do best is strings and piano, and I'm happier with my recent purchases of SE5 and the Std Bosey Imperial. I think I'm done with trying to rescue their old recordings finally, but their new recordings are pretty pricey.


  • Hello spicemix!

    The SYNCHRON-ized Special Edition 6 "Low Brass - All players loco" presets are as they are ment to be. Only the "Desk 2", "Player 3" and "Player 4" are octave shifted for "loco"-playing. "Desk 1", "Player 1" and "Player 2" are loco anyway. The "All players" dimension is not shifted, because all four instruments have been recorded together with with this octave shift and bleeding in the microphones. It would have two drawbacks to shift players 3 and 4 within this dimension.
    - The range where all players play together would be very limited.
    - You would get the bleeding of notes that aren't played.

    Best regards,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library
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  • If you didn't want a different "loco" preset then you shouldn't have included it...it should be as if you used the (keyboard shifted, or rather, not shifted) loco versions in an All players configuration, but as it is, I can't tell the difference between it and the non-loco version, they are the same key layout.

    Is there bleed from other instrument types in this library? Not much. Either very well gobo'd or they are actually separate recordings with convolution added. Well enough isolated for this to not be an issue I think. I wonder if they were in headphones with all that goboing, if they can't really hear each other anyway, it was just saving studio hours to record them together.

    Anyway I'm glad you're no longer recording orchestral instruments in pure mono, no stereo capture available. Mono spot mics are a thing but only when stereo is already covered by decca trees etc. Does the $1000 version of this library also just have mono recordings?


  • Hello spicemix!

    @spicemix said:
    If you didn't want a different "loco" preset then you shouldn't have included

    As mentioned in my previous post, the Desk 2, Player 3 and Player 4 dimensions are octave shifted for loco playing. So the preset IS different to the non-loco preset.

    Best regards,
    Andi


    Vienna Symphonic Library