Mac Studio (M2) | macOS Ventura 13.5.2 | MOTU M4 | VE Pro 7.3.3610 | Digital Performer 11.3
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There very well may be a problem, but as time continues to elapse, this is feeling like more than just getting VEP and Apple Silicon to work together. I’m starting to think GPU audio might be a factor here given the forthcoming integration with MIR and VSL’s interoperability among their tools. That kind of paradigm shift would be a lot more challenging and would explain the reluctance to develop an intermediate solution between Intel and this next iteration of VE Pro.
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@afterlight said in [Apple Silicon Native Transition](/post/316941):
@rockdude9k said in [Apple Silicon Native Transition](/post/316927):
And another one gone, and another one gone. Another week bites the dust...
Too true.
I think the simple reality is there is a problem. This isn’t releasing this year and quite possibly isn’t releasing ever. If it was they’d say something.Why are you saying this? Paul said the next VE Pro update will be compatible with Apple Silicon. It's the last release of round 1, so it should be there soon. I think the transition is going pretty well.
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Going well in the sense that it's only three years late. Years! What's really irritating is that the communication is just so poor, on the excuse of not making promises. People rely on this software to make hardware decisions. It's them and audioease (altiverb at this point) still holding out on Rosetta and saying that it's somehow awesome. Anything else I've seen without a silicon installer is abandonware. "Don't want to give estimates" is just absurd in this day and age.
I love Ensemble and have used it virtually since day one, and if they can get it together it'll be immense. But there are so many people out there waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting, VSL are only hurting themselves by not being factual with it. The irritation in this thread is real, but it comes from a place of really, really loving this software and the potential it holds with Apple Silicon and the need to plan hardware and studio upgrades. Knowing if it's this YEAR or not would be a start! I know of no other software companies other than one man bands that can't tell you what year they expect to release - and usually, what quarter. Q3, Q4 2023? Hopefully. But hope is all we have and checking this forum day in day out.
@daviddln said in [Apple Silicon Native Transition](/post/316953):
@afterlight said in [Apple Silicon Native Transition](/post/316941):
@rockdude9k said in [Apple Silicon Native Transition](/post/316927):
And another one gone, and another one gone. Another week bites the dust...
Too true.
I think the simple reality is there is a problem. This isn’t releasing this year and quite possibly isn’t releasing ever. If it was they’d say something.Why are you saying this? Paul said the next VE Pro update will be compatible with Apple Silicon. It's the last release of round 1, so it should be there soon. I think the transition is going pretty well.
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@jweisig said in [Apple Silicon Native Transition](/post/316942):
There very well may be a problem, but as time continues to elapse, this is feeling like more than just getting VEP and Apple Silicon to work together. I’m starting to think GPU audio might be a factor here given the forthcoming integration with MIR and VSL’s interoperability among their tools. That kind of paradigm shift would be a lot more challenging and would explain the reluctance to develop an intermediate solution between Intel and this next iteration of VE Pro.
Well GPU audio would be a very welcome surprise. Seems like it would be a good time to do it given they're ripping their hair out writing code for a completely different architecture already but maybe we would have gotten some news of this like- "Hey keep your shirts on, the new version will be Amazing! Stupendous!! Colossal!!!!" But... no news.
Where did this "last release of round 1" news come from? Beta tester?, crystal ball?, Ouija Board? Karnak? Nostradamus?
My sympathy to those of you trying to make a living.
Vinny 2022 Mac Studio Max 64GB/ Mac OS Sonoma/ Studio One 6/ VEP7/ Mir 3D/ Synchronized SE1/ Synchron Harp/ Studio Ophicleide and Serpent/ V Smart Orch.+ Ext./ BBO Altair/ Arturia Keylab Essential 88/Analog Lab -
Thanks David, do you mean the video from a few months back? I thought this was something new.
Vinny 2022 Mac Studio Max 64GB/ Mac OS Sonoma/ Studio One 6/ VEP7/ Mir 3D/ Synchronized SE1/ Synchron Harp/ Studio Ophicleide and Serpent/ V Smart Orch.+ Ext./ BBO Altair/ Arturia Keylab Essential 88/Analog Lab -
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Gotta be programming job from hell. They'll get it
Vinny 2022 Mac Studio Max 64GB/ Mac OS Sonoma/ Studio One 6/ VEP7/ Mir 3D/ Synchronized SE1/ Synchron Harp/ Studio Ophicleide and Serpent/ V Smart Orch.+ Ext./ BBO Altair/ Arturia Keylab Essential 88/Analog Lab -
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I just use VI and MIR PRO 3D in Logic as well as other AU like Kontakt, this save CPU
I am working on a 100 tracks project with no problem on my MacBook Pro 2019 64 GB
I am experimenting Dolby 7.4.1 at the momentJust need to reboot when you start working in Logic, this to clear all memory used by other apps
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Great to see the Apple Silicon native release of VEPro 7 today. Thank you guys!
Quick question - is it normal to see only the "Vienna Ensemble Pro Surround" plugin in the DAW? Should we be just using this one plugin and setting the output type to what we require even if that's not surround?
Thanks!
EDIT: SOLUTION - Just download with Vienna Assistant and install manually rather than entirely with Vienna Assistant. Thanks!
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Hi everybody,
VE Pro 7, VI Pro and Vienna Imperial are now Apple Silicon Ready and available in your Vienna Assistant!
Watch the announcement video on YouTube!
Update: VE Pro 7 GLITCH-FIX for VST3 and AAX on macOS- fixed with VE Pro 7.3.3335, available in your Vienna Assistant.
Next up: Vienna Organ Player and Vienna Suite Pro.
Also check out the special offers with VE Pro 7 (35% OFF, with upgrades starting from 45 EUR) and VI Collections (45% OFF)!
Best,
Paul
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Hi Paul and team,
Just tried a project that was maxing out CPU before and regardless of the great Apple Silicon addition, the performance jump with this new version is PHENOMENAL! (Cubase Intel <-> VEPro Server Windows). Thank you! HUGE reduction in load on the DAW. I'm seeing significantly better audio performance than before, even after having halved the buffer size!
Amazing! Thank you!
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My joy for an Apple Silicon version of VE Pro is short lived. An AAX version doesn't seem to get installed. I've tried installing twice but there's nothing getting installed in:
Macintosh HD>Library>Application Support>Avid>Audio>Plugins
VST(3) and AU install fine. AAX Synchro Player/Pianos/Harp all installed correctly.
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HI Marsdy,
That's indeed a stupid glitch in the (silent) VA Installer.
I have posted the fix above, should be corrected with the next update:
VE Pro 7 GLITCH-FIX for VST3 and AAX on macOS: Please use THIS WORKAROUND for now to install the software manually. The installation routine in the Vienna Assistant does not install these plug-ins properly!
This installer issue will be fixed asap.Didn't want to ruin your first impression!
Best,
Paul
Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL