I agree that the speed with which the VSL software is adapted to M1 is disappointing however they are certainly not the only company having problems getting their software adapted. Apart from Kontakt all Native Instruments soft and Hardware still needs Rosetta.

Do you really have such big issues using Rosetta with Dorico?  I am running a Dorico 4 project using Rosetta with 70 instruments in the VST rack, 49 VSL Synchron and the rest BBCSO and a few Kontakt Percussion instruments. It takes bit of time till the project is playable but I have no big issues when it is ready to play. Sometimes  a few clicks when 2 or more instruments are played at the same note for the first time in a session (a CPU peak). You also see it very well in the Logic CPU monitor. When you play it a second time there is no peak nor clicks.

Before my M1Max I had to use VEPPro for this size of project as I had only 16 GB on my Intel MBP but with the new M1Max and 64 GB this is not needed. 

I did test VEPPro with a similar size template but only with Logic (so no Rosetta needed). The main reason at the time was that the Synchron player did not work directly in Logic whereas it did work when accessed through VEPPro. Now the Synchron Player works directly in Logic. 

@Davka said:

Any news? M1 support

I am waiting eagerly myself. I hope they start with the ones that are still waiting for iLok support (like Vienna Imperial)

Happy to hear some news 😊

@Davka said:

Any news? M1 support

It is taking a very long time... Digital Performer 11 (Universal) was released over a year ago but I can't use it because VEPro 7 MAS is unusable with Rosetta 2 and DP11. So I'm stuck with Digital Performer 10 under Rosetta 2, which only just works and crashes a few times each day. 

@Davka said:

Any news? M1 support

It is taking a very long time... Digital Performer 11 (Universal) was released over a year ago but I can't use it because VEPro 7 MAS is unusable with Rosetta 2 and DP11. So I'm stuck with Digital Performer 10 under Rosetta 2, which only just works and crashes a few times each day.

@Dan Wool said:

I'm not optimistic VEP will become native anytime soon.

Why? Both Paul and Ben said they were working on it. Since MIR Pro 3D is out and the transition to iLok is complete, the can fully focus on that.

@Dan Wool said:

I'm not optimistic VEP will become native anytime soon.

Why? Both Paul and Ben said they were working on it. Since MIR Pro 3D is out and the transition to iLok is complete, the can fully focus on that.

@Dan Wool said:

I'm not optimistic VEP will become native anytime soon.

Why? Both Paul and Ben said they were working on it. Since MIR Pro 3D is out and the transition to iLok is complete, the can fully focus on that.

Hopefully that's the truth. NI, Audio Ease and VSL are my biggest laggers, and NI is oddly stepping out in front with Kontakt and Guitar Rig both AS ready.  

@Davka said:

Any news? M1 support

It is taking a very long time... Digital Performer 11 (Universal) was released over a year ago but I can't use it because VEPro 7 MAS is unusable with Rosetta 2 and DP11. So I'm stuck with Digital Performer 10 under Rosetta 2, which only just works and crashes a few times each day. 

Hi Paul,

We really need some kind of ETA now. Personally, I use VEP in game production on a daily basis, and spent years refining my template, balancing, relying on VEP. I've been a VSL user since 2008, so been around here for quite a long time, also educating university students to use VEP, among other things.

My old computer is getting less and less reliable, so I bought a maxed out Mac Studio now, and still the processing overhead by using Rosetta in Cubendo is simply too high for any serious work to be done. Doesn't really matter if VEP works well, it's the other CPU demanding plugins that are forced to run Rosetta that will be bottlenecks.

If VEP is not made compatible within a reasonable time frame (months, not years, it's been almost 2 years since Silicon was first released), I'd have to redo my entire template internally in Nuendo, and after that I will never ever go back to VEP, or recommend any of my university film scoring students using VEP for that matter.

Please, give us something.

@Paul said:

Hi, 

It's high on our list, but I can't give you an ETA - it usually only causes disappointment when things don't go as planned. 

But rest assured that we're on it!

Best, 
Paul

Yep... We really need ETA now.

Hi everybody, 

We understand your position, and those last 2 years were very intense for everybody, in many ways. 

Here's the catch with ETAs in software development: High probability of disappointment for both users and developers. We have been there, and it's not a good place. 
So we decided to announce our products or essential updates only when they are ready and tested, good to go to make your world a better place.

I can tell you that it's looking good at this point, but I still can't give you an ETA.

I will post and news in this thread first!

Thanks for your understanding!

Best, 
Paul

Way to stick to your guns Paul 😃 Its probably the correct reply, even though we want to strangle you for it 😠 I'm not in the AS boat yet even though I'm about to hop on, so I'm not as frustrated as many here...yet. I assume quite a few might need to move on or change their working ways, but I guess that's something VSL is willing to deal with. Best of luck and really hope things move smoothly, and quickly!

I have complete two commercial projects while swimming in the sea of VEP bugs, crashes note hangs and useless waste of processing power because of rosetta simulation. I just can't believe how long it's taking VSL to make this native silicon move. Very frustrated with no end in sight! 

VEP and MIR PRO are the only two softwares in my HUGE template that still do not run natively.. 

I'm about done with VSL. Mac users couldn't care less about new products like MIR Pro 3D when you can't run VEP natively on M1. Whoever is setting the priorities at VSL doesn't have a clue about their users. In the future, a little customer research would go a long way. 

Where can we run natively AU3 plugins without this Rosetta? Is it a joke this company? Your libraries are VERY expensive and I cannot still use Logic in non Rosetta mode. What is going on with you guys???? We users should write more of it that the situation is for us uncomfortable.

I'd like to add my voice to the discussion here. At this point, having migrated successfully to a Mac Studio, Vienna Ensemble Pro stands out as the only software in my studio not yet ported over to silicon, or at least (and to be fair), the only critical piece. My sincere hope is that VSL will soon release a version capable of running natively on the M1, and I mean within days or weeks. Frankly, I'm starting to consider other options, and as at least one other poster has pointed out, once another solution is adopted, there may be no going back to VSL. I've always held Vienna Ensemble Pro in high regard, it is an elegant solution for professional composers. But VSL's sluggish response to the inevitable is disheartening.

My 10 hour big project on Cubase 12 just broke today! when i use VEP7 It happens usually. I am using Rosetta Cubase 12 on M1 Pro Macbook  with four 128gb RAM Windows PC as Slave via VEP.  So dissapointed. We really need m1 & VST3 support on VEP

I'm limping along with my old Mac Pros waiting for this update, but clearly VSL has hit a wall somewhere with the M1 port, maybe multiple walls. I'm finishing up a score in the next few weeks but can not limp along with my bunch of old cheesegraters any more, I have to make the switch before the next serious project comes in. Does anyone have a workaround (compatible with DP 11)? A substitute for VEPro that can run native?